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04 May 2013, 00:22
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Member
Country: USA
Town: California
Make: Avon 5.4m Searider
Length: 5m +
Engine: Yamaha 90
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 1,260
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Hoist Launching, California
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Originally Posted by Bigtalljv
Having poked a camera below decks removing those lifting points would be quite a task. Although i guess since its all fiberglass you can cut your way in and repair without too much trouble.
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Ok, maybe not then.
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Originally Posted by Bigtalljv
They are quite an asset though. Depending on where you live a hoist can be way easier than a sling if there is no ramp.
If you plan on owning the boat forever then go for it. I'm keeping mine because I have hoisting options....
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Where would you launch from with a 4-point harness?
For me in southern California, there's a hoist in Redondo Beach, but they use a sling. They won't let you use you own straps.
Gaviota Pier hoist has a 2 ton weight limit....we're borderline their once you throw in fuel/gear (actually, you may be ok with an outboard).
Where else???
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04 May 2013, 02:24
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Member
Country: USA
Town: NorCal
Boat name: SHARKY
Make: AB
Length: 4m +
Engine: Honda BF75 & BF5
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 2,108
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Gaviota is very strict on set up requirements, and requires a class and expensive yearly permit, along with use fees. BTW I mostly used Gaviota's requirements for hoisting when I set my boat up.
Still Water Cove Carmel, and Point Arena are the reasons I set my boat up for hoist launching. You use your own slings, and are responsible for the boat right up to the cable hook. Something gives, I guarantee they will be laughing at you. I did use load rated slings for the rear, but just use a 3" webbing strap for the front, and a 3' foot chain to add a little length.
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04 May 2013, 02:38
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Member
Country: USA
Town: California
Make: Avon 5.4m Searider
Length: 5m +
Engine: Yamaha 90
Join Date: Aug 2011
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter_C
Gaviota is very strict on set up requirements, and requires a class and expensive yearly permit. I mostly used Gaviota's requirements for hoisting when I set my boat up. I did use load rated slings for the rear, but just use a 3" webbing strap for the front, and a 3' foot chain to add a little length.
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Of those places, would you ever consider launching a 7m 5,500 lb. rib???
(my boat is tagged as 5,500 lbs hoisting weight, 4,500 lbs. dry, Jason may be lighter when he's finished the outboard conversion)
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05 May 2013, 03:31
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Country: USA
Town: Hood River
Boat name: Seal Team 7
Make: Zodiac SRA-750
Length: 7m +
Engine: Evinrude ETEC G2 300
MMSI: WDI 8895
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 268
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ncp,
Those lifting points are a big asset also insanely overbuilt. They are actually a proper chain plate with a huge strap bolted into the stringers below deck.
They could hold 20,000 ea easy. They look like the chainplates for the mast of a maxi sailing yacht, not for lifting a 7m rib.
I guess insertion by chopper has more dynamic loads than crane hoisting
Around here we don't have any yards, so we rent a crane or throw a chain hoist onto a big beam. I plan on using them.
I'm used to some self service hoists in various places. A lot of those are 3 ton capacity, which should be perfect for a Willard.
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05 May 2013, 05:50
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Country: USA
Town: NorCal
Boat name: SHARKY
Make: AB
Length: 4m +
Engine: Honda BF75 & BF5
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 2,108
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ncp
Of those places, would you ever consider launching a 7m 5,500 lb. rib???
(my boat is tagged as 5,500 lbs hoisting weight, 4,500 lbs. dry, Jason may be lighter when he's finished the outboard conversion)
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Both places I mentioned are fully capable of launching your little boats
I have seen fairly large urchin boats launch at Point Arena, and per Chuck's site regarding Still Water, "I saw 32', large keel sailboats there that they'd launched."
Launching at Stillwater Cove
Both are kinda far from you though...
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05 May 2013, 13:30
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Member
Country: USA
Town: California
Make: Avon 5.4m Searider
Length: 5m +
Engine: Yamaha 90
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 1,260
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter_C
Both places I mentioned are fully capable of launching your little boats
I have seen fairly large urchin boats launch at Point Arena, and per Chuck's site regarding Still Water, "I saw 32', large keel sailboats there that they'd launched."
Launching at Stillwater Cove
Both are kinda far from you though...
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Far, but good to know they exist. It sounds like my lifting points won't be removed anytime soon.
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02 March 2014, 18:26
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Country: USA
Town: CA
Make: Zodiac RIB-P
Length: 7m +
Engine: Suzuki 250
Join Date: Aug 2010
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Looks like the options just got reduced, the gaviota pier has been wrecked. Sounds like they expect to lose the hoist. I doubt they will replace it with one that can take a 5000lbs 24' RIB but I can hope.
http://www.noozhawk.com/article/big_..._pier_20140301
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02 March 2014, 18:32
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Member
Country: USA
Town: NorCal
Boat name: SHARKY
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Length: 4m +
Engine: Honda BF75 & BF5
Join Date: Dec 2009
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Bummer, as you said it is doubtful they will rebuild with a hoist, assuming it falls into the ocean.
The picture they illustrate with is not impressive though. Small waves, and probably taken a long time ago.
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02 March 2014, 19:22
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Member
Country: USA
Town: CA
Make: Zodiac RIB-P
Length: 7m +
Engine: Suzuki 250
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 1,235
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The picture is from yesterday. The entire end of the pier is missing. It's a big pier those are big waves and they were bigger. Our local piers are taking a beating too. Waves are breaking over the height of the pier and pushing the pier apart from below.
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