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08 July 2013, 15:23
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lightning protection for RIBs?
Hi does anyone use lightning protection on an open RIB? I guess that a solid plastic coated copper cable could be fed from a high point on the A frame to the water to offer grounding to the surrounding water to deflect the damage but not sure if it woul be effective? what do you think?
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08 July 2013, 15:28
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I just stay off the boat in thunderstorm conditions. We probably get a lot fewer than you do though.
I suspect that it would take some pretty thick cable to deflect damage from a lightning strike, but that's just a guess. High point on the boat will likely be the VHF antenna anyway, wouldn't it?
jky
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08 July 2013, 15:54
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I guess not all areas suffer from rapid and intense lightning sorms but I have heard that most cases of letal strikes at sea take place on small boats...this is what this site says...in the case of an open boat, a good lightning protection system may indeed save a life. The principles are the same as for any boat – air terminals to provide a strike point, external conductors to form a protective cage around the boat, and multiple grounding terminals to disperse the current away from the boat. Overhead conducting fittings such as T-tops and biminis can be life savers when they are integrated into a complete system. Otherwise they are potential sideflash hazards. Science & Technology
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08 July 2013, 16:34
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My A framt bolts through the hull and is the highest point so in theory its grounded to the sea via the thru hull bolts.
dont put copper on your stainless. ;-) check where the bolts go and add a stainless trip if its needs it from a bolt on the afram/transom to further down the transom where it enters the salty.
and yes you may need some hefty wire to disipate a lightening strike.
but a stainless A frame of 2 inch tubing may be able to take a good old hit.
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08 July 2013, 17:29
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all you have to do id stay close to a big sailboat
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09 July 2013, 22:16
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sailit
all you have to do id stay close to a big sailboat
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Says the guy with the username "Sailit"...
jky
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09 July 2013, 22:28
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I would have thought that it you have an a frame you could just tap onto that and have something removable so you can connect it when things kick off
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09 July 2013, 22:33
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And hook it up to your battery charger!!!!!!!!
With a fuse, of course.
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09 July 2013, 22:34
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I think you need one of these....
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09 July 2013, 22:36
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What is that?
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09 July 2013, 22:39
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10 July 2013, 00:50
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Quote:
Originally Posted by whisper
I would have thought that it you have an a frame you could just tap onto that and have something removable so you can connect it when things kick off
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I think that this should be possible by attaching a sacrificial tip and the cables and dissipating ends (plates or newer cilindrical designs) to the main metal structure when the risk is imminent but the A frame is not always the highest point on the RIB and a lightning may be deflected to the consolle if this is not protected. The best would be a T top connected to the A frame which could if properly set up form a Faraday? cage...
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10 July 2013, 02:24
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The ground cable would not carry the current long before it is vaporized. Model rockets use 22ga just to initiate the pulse, maybe a similar concept would work on a rib or sib.
I know we where caught out in the open once and heading home was slow in 2-3 foot waves. Fishing rods were stored real fast after we saw the first lightening bolt. Might look into a system myself.
John
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10 July 2013, 06:16
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Here is what we use in Cali..
Cheers, Squid
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12 July 2013, 07:15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Squid Boat
Here is what we use in Cali..
Cheers, Squid
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That would work. Safety is clearly the top priority here - I noticed there were 2 flotation devices for each of your passengers.
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