looking for glue

learning to fly · 07 May 2007, 16:26

I need to buy some hypaloin glue for my boat. Ive searched and found that a lot of people like the bostich glue but couldnt find it in the US, I keep finding the weaver 2 part glue. Is this just as good or does anyone know where I can order the bostich in the US. I just want to do the repairs right with no regrets. Any info would be appreciated., thanks

jyasaki · 07 May 2007, 16:32

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Originally Posted by learning to fly

Ive searched and found that a lot of people like the bostich glue but couldnt find it in the US,

Dude; I've been looking for a US supplier for Bostik 2402 for something like 5 years.

If you absolutely have to have Bostik, shoot an e-mail to Guy at Polaris Inflatables in Sidney, BC (http://www.polarisboats.com). I know he uses it and can get you small quantities.

Other than that, I've gone to using the Clifton adhesive, which seems to work pretty well. Available in many places, including NRS (www.nrsweb.com).

Luck;

jky

learning to fly · 07 May 2007, 17:10

thanks for that info, Is the clifton any better than the weaver anyone know?

Dave Berry · 07 May 2007, 18:07

We supply two part glue for Hypalon and PVC coated fabrics. Small quantities are always available. We have used our hypalon adhesive to build hundreds of tubes and perform many more repairs over the last 15 years. Our PVC adhesive has also been used for the same length of time to repair many, many tubes made from PVC coated fabric. We are located in Toronto, Ontario and have shipped small quantities to the US. If you would like more info you can PM me.

Cabs · 08 May 2007, 14:29

I know that Ribcraft puts a tube of Bostik glue in their repair kits - perhaps you can contact them and they'd sell some of the glue. www.ribcraftusa.com
Actually, you probably could call any of the RIB manufacturers in the US to find the glue: Nautica, Novurania, Ribcraft...

jyasaki · 08 May 2007, 16:43

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Originally Posted by learning to fly

thanks for that info, Is the clifton any better than the weaver anyone know?

Don't know, having never used the Weaver glue.

The Clifton stuff seems pretty good; like 2402, it has a hardener (not an activator, as I once thought it was) that is in most cases actually not needed.

As with most solvent-based adhesives, it does have a limited shelf life, so be a little sparing on what you order.

jky

sunrider · 08 May 2007, 18:01

Hypalon glue is available from Zodiac, West Marine, and many other sources that will be found by google search, including http://www.nrsweb.com/shop/product.asp?pfid=1904#.

603doug · 09 May 2007, 04:03

I use the polymarine 2-part glue sold by west marine and it seems to hold fine. Had a seam pull apart a bit, glued it and have not needed to add air to the tube since. Before every 3 days it would go flat

learning to fly · 09 May 2007, 05:01

thanks for all the input, I might try ribcraft in Mass. If I cant get the bostich ill go another route

Jklingel · 13 May 2007, 05:20

Good luck getting the glue shipped. At least up to AK it is a nightmare; $60 shipping from the Seattle (?) NRS store! I finally found the Clifton 4844 and the accelerator in Anchorage; a mere $35 to truck it up. Ribcraft recommended I use the Clifton, btw. It seems awfully tough and sticky, though I have not splashed the boat yet. It hits the salt in a week.

prairie tuber · 15 May 2007, 04:08

That nrs website is loaded with very cool stuff

http://www.nrsweb.com/shop/product_list.asp?deptid=1090

BBirnie · 16 May 2007, 17:28

I have used the nrs site to order a few things like hypalon and grab handles, they ship stuff very quickly and prices are pretty good.

learning to fly · 17 May 2007, 03:58

thanks for all the info, I probally am going to use the clifton, now I just need the energy to get going on the repairs. I also am looking for something to tie my anchor to on the bow. Anyone have any idea of a us supplier that sells the bow cleats or bow rollers that I can glue on my boat

jyasaki · 18 May 2007, 17:51

Might try here (never dealt with these folks; found on a search):

http://shop.inflatableboatparts.com/home.php

I'm sure there are others; but I haven't found em.

jky

learning to fly · 19 May 2007, 01:11

thanks again for all the info. I have ordered the clifton from nrs websight and it is already being shipped to me. Now I need some nice weather and some incentive to start preparing the tubes. Dont have too much work just need to get going.

Limey Linda · 19 May 2007, 01:26

Please post the results of your use of the glue as I need some for re-attaching pvc rub strakes that have "departed" from the tubes at the cone end. Tempted to use Gorilla Glue available at the local ACE hardware. It is polyurathane and is low cost in small quantities.
Thanks T.

learning to fly · 19 May 2007, 02:15

are you gluing the pvc to pvc or hypalon? Dont go the cheap way. You have a new project now. If you search good you can find good prices on the glue you need. I have seen the gorilla glue you mean and even thought of buying it for an old inflatable. I always worried that if it doesnt work good it will be a lot of work to clean it again for the proper glue. I spent almost $50 but it was for a large can plus the activater. I will have enough for any project I need for the shelf life of the glue. You dont even need that much. there are plenty of links on this thread alone. And I will post pics of the repairs . Just the other day I found a link on here that had a huge amount of info on repairs. Little tricks that made so much sence like using a can to roll up the patches if they are long, useing tape and other helpfull ideas. If I find it Ill try to post it here.

Limey Linda · 19 May 2007, 02:26

PVC strake to hypalon. I can buy the 2 part from West marine who have a store about 20 miles away. I have seen the same link with the tips for gluing and like yourself cannot remember where it is. I think I will take your advice and splash out for the two part from West Marine.
Thanks T.

fast fred · 19 May 2007, 10:42

thares a shop in Cal, they make a vary ausome glue, 10years, thousands of patches, never failed. Stabond, remember you are not gluing, more like taping,
if you try to stickit before the glue sets up, you are Makin a mess and it will show.

learning to fly · 17 June 2007, 06:40

wanted to give an update of my repair, I bought the clifton glue and it worked great, very easy to use, I had a perfect day, perfect temp no humidity. My worry about the patch was when I started to peel back the patch I tried to be very carefull and used a hairdryer but as I did I noticed that the rubber started to peel off and exposed the threads. I decided not to go any further and start from there. I came across 2 problems that I had to deal with. One was that where the patch was it was very hard to get the fabric flat enough for a good patch. Because of how thick the tube is in the front and all the extra layers of material it was tough. Because I had a bow lockr up front I at least had a nice flat surface to start with. After playing around with some blocks of wood I was ablbe to get it preety flat but it did not want to stay like this. I was afraid that when I went to stick the patch it would move on me and cause problems. I took care of this by usinf a couple of small bar clamps to flatten the tube and prevent it from mooving. Now that I had a nice surface I had to deal with the other problem....

I will try to show some pics to help explain this. The patch is one already on there and it did not seperated evenly. It was loose on the top and also on the bottom while along the center it was still attached. After a few long moments of banging my head against the wall I came up with using a small pair of vice grips to hold the two halves of the patch together then tied the vice grips to a handle on my tube to hold apart while I apply the glue. This kept the patch at a perfect spot for me and when it came time to apply it was very easy. I took my time and rolled out the patch as described in so many threads on this sight. The boat hold air now indefinately. If anyone has any problems like this and needs any info I would be glad to answer any questions and help in any way