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15 August 2015, 22:52
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Country: USA
Town: Stuart, FL
Make: Willard 730
Length: 7m +
Engine: 2 x 175 Suzuki's
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 815
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My idea for a SAFEBOAT 25'
I have been playing with doing a 25' SAFEBOAT, but doing some heavy modifications. What do you guys think?
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15 August 2015, 23:06
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Member
Country: USA
Town: California
Make: Avon 5.4m Searider
Length: 5m +
Engine: Yamaha 90
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 1,260
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Love it. The deck is so small - this will open it up nicely.
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15 August 2015, 23:08
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Member
Country: USA
Town: CA
Make: Zodiac RIB-P
Length: 7m +
Engine: Suzuki 250
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 1,235
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You're just having way too much fun at work.
Looks like a good plan. Never seen one in person but there doesn't seem to be much deck space on the safe boats. That opens it up.
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15 August 2015, 23:13
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Member
Country: USA
Town: Stuart, FL
Make: Willard 730
Length: 7m +
Engine: 2 x 175 Suzuki's
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 815
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my 2c
Yeah, i do! this would add 50% to the deck and make it a much easier boat to work single handed.
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15 August 2015, 23:23
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Member
Country: USA
Town: Connecticut
Make: Zodiac
Length: 6m +
Engine: Undecided
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 777
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Yeah the factory design was not well thought out. One of my local fire departments bought one and found out the hard way there is not enough room to put a person on a backboard. Your renderings look much more useful.
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15 August 2015, 23:25
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Member
Country: USA
Town: Stuart, FL
Make: Willard 730
Length: 7m +
Engine: 2 x 175 Suzuki's
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 815
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Yeah, you need to put them across the beam using the dips in the tubes, but then it is really hard to get in and out of the boat!
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15 August 2015, 23:26
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Member
Country: USA
Town: Stuart, FL
Make: Willard 730
Length: 7m +
Engine: 2 x 175 Suzuki's
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 815
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Let them know we can do this to their existing boat
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16 August 2015, 07:27
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Country: UK - England
Length: 3m +
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 2,767
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how do you get to the foredeck?
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16 August 2015, 11:44
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Member
Country: USA
Town: Fort Lauderdale
Make: Fluid 10.6m
Length: 9m +
Engine: 2x Mercury 300hp
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 324
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cgoing
Yeah the factory design was not well thought out. One of my local fire departments bought one and found out the hard way there is not enough room to put a person on a backboard. Your renderings look much more useful.
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Chris, this is the perfect vessel for Fire Dept's.
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16 August 2015, 12:47
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Country: USA
Town: Connecticut
Make: Zodiac
Length: 6m +
Engine: Undecided
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 777
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Interesting
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24 August 2015, 03:56
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Member
Country: USA
Town: Stuart, FL
Make: Willard 730
Length: 7m +
Engine: 2 x 175 Suzuki's
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 815
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Yeah, i have decided that this is just to much work! If i hit a dry spell and cant find any other builds i might look at this again, but their are a lot of issues with the safeboat 25'.
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24 August 2015, 05:58
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Member
Country: USA
Town: California
Make: Avon 5.4m Searider
Length: 5m +
Engine: Yamaha 90
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 1,260
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You mean like the limited range due to small fuel tanks?
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24 August 2015, 12:29
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Member
Country: USA
Town: Stuart, FL
Make: Willard 730
Length: 7m +
Engine: 2 x 175 Suzuki's
Join Date: Nov 2009
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one of many reasons. the tank is welded in and only 100gl. and it is a huge job to increase as a new deck needs to be put in.
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27 August 2015, 06:55
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Member
Country: USA
Town: LA
Make: Zodiac
Length: 5m +
Engine: OB
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 48
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So are you gonna make any mods to the SAFE? Or just get it refurbed and keep design the same?
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27 August 2015, 13:40
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Member
Country: USA
Town: Stuart, FL
Make: Willard 730
Length: 7m +
Engine: 2 x 175 Suzuki's
Join Date: Nov 2009
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just refurb, not worth the effort and cost to do all the work.
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29 August 2015, 00:24
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Member
Country: USA
Town: Hood River
Boat name: Seal Team 7
Make: Zodiac SRA-750
Length: 7m +
Engine: Evinrude ETEC G2 300
MMSI: WDI 8895
Join Date: Sep 2012
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I was just in Newport, RI and noticed they had replaced their Safeboats with a fleet of new Metalsharks like this. That CG station is decked out.
29 DEFIANT » Metal Shark
Not really a rib anymore I would say, save the small bumper.
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29 August 2015, 02:03
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Member
Country: USA
Town: California
Make: Avon 5.4m Searider
Length: 5m +
Engine: Yamaha 90
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 1,260
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Quote:
Originally Posted by clloyd
I was just in Newport, RI and noticed they had replaced their Safeboats with a fleet of new Metalsharks.
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Someone can probably find a citation for this info. I heard Safeboats are getting swapped out at 10 years since that's their useful life.
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29 August 2015, 19:21
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Member
Country: USA
Town: LA
Make: Zodiac
Length: 5m +
Engine: OB
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 48
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ncp
Someone can probably find a citation for this info. I heard Safeboats are getting swapped out at 10 years since that's their useful life.
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Yes I spoke to the CG guys at my fuel dock and they said exactly that... they are purchased with an intended 10yr service life and then they all get phased out. Metalshark won the new contract, and as they produce the boats, they get phased in.
Apparently though, most of the CG guys are not happy with the metalsharks. The 2 crews I spoke with out here told me they all are adjusting to limitations they are not happy with... biggest being the ride, second being the functionality of the setup... didn't get specifics on that, so I am not sure exactly what they were referring to.
They look sweet though! But I really like the SAFE boats, and I think Ryan's conceptual design looks to address many of the limitations of using it as a single handed boat.
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01 September 2015, 05:38
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Member
Country: USA
Town: Orange County, CA
Boat name: Northwind
Make: Northwind
Length: 10m +
Engine: Twin Yamaha 350's
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 188
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dbrunes
Apparently though, most of the CG guys are not happy with the metalsharks. The 2 crews I spoke with out here told me they all are adjusting to limitations they are not happy with... biggest being the ride, second being the functionality of the setup... didn't get specifics on that, so I am not sure exactly what they were referring to.
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Funny that you should say that; I've spoken to several Guardsmen who are small boat coxswains and nobody had anything good to say about the MetalShark boats, a couple guys said they avoid using them when possible and prefer the SafeBoats hands down and were quite vocal on their dislike of them...
It looks like the higher-ups in the USCG had a good design with the SafeBoats but decided that they needed to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory... :-(
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01 September 2015, 16:10
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Member
Country: USA
Town: Stuart, FL
Make: Willard 730
Length: 7m +
Engine: 2 x 175 Suzuki's
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 815
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I have heard from many USCG that they dont like the Metalsharks. they loved the safe boats and wish they could keep the old safeboats!
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