Go Back   RIBnet Forums > RIB talk > RIBnet North America
Click Here to Login

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
 
Old 01 December 2009, 18:00   #1
Member
 
Country: USA
Town: Oxnard
Boat name: Novurania
Make: Novurania
Length: 4m +
Engine: Yamaha 40hp outboard
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 15
Rubber cheese - for old glue removal

Been reading through lots of posts.

Seems the folks across the pond use something called "rubber cheese" to remove old glue.

Does anyone here know what the product is called in the U.S. and where I might be able to get some?

There was also a suggestion of creating a block of glue (from a glue gun) and using that for old glue removal...just thought I'd throw that in here in case someone is going through the same thing.

Looking forward to your advice.

Thank you.
__________________
geronimo21 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01 December 2009, 19:04   #2
Member
 
chewy's Avatar
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Up Norf
Make: Avon SR4,Tremlett 23
Length: 4m +
Engine: Yam 55, Volvo 200
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 5,217
That might just be our station that calls it rubber cheese.
It does disintegrate when your using it so may be made of slightly harder glue?
__________________
chewy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02 December 2009, 07:21   #3
Member
 
Country: USA
Town: Oxnard
Boat name: Novurania
Make: Novurania
Length: 4m +
Engine: Yamaha 40hp outboard
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 15
rubber cheese

Thought I'd put this out to U.S. and Canada subscribers to see if they know what it's called here. So far, no replies. Thanks for checking with your contact at Typhoon...Look forward to your reply. Thanks again.
__________________
geronimo21 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02 December 2009, 13:12   #4
Member
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Somerset
Boat name: Ashling
Make: Scorpion
Length: 8m +
Engine: Mercury 225
Join Date: Jun 2001
Posts: 270
I think you are probably refering to the material called "Crepe". Mostly used by shoe manufacturers for the soles of shoes. It is excellent for removing excess glue if used with a small bit of thinners to soften the glue first. We use it the whole time in the factory.

It is not easy to find, but we can supply if need be. 10 pieces for £15.00 plus postage and packing to USA of £5.00

Regards
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	Crepe.jpg
Views:	324
Size:	67.0 KB
ID:	47806  
__________________
Chris Hornidge

www.henshaw.co.uk
Christopher is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02 December 2009, 13:32   #5
Member
 
chewy's Avatar
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Up Norf
Make: Avon SR4,Tremlett 23
Length: 4m +
Engine: Yam 55, Volvo 200
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 5,217
Thats the stuff!
__________________
chewy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02 December 2009, 16:26   #6
Member
 
Country: USA
Town: Oxnard
Boat name: Novurania
Make: Novurania
Length: 4m +
Engine: Yamaha 40hp outboard
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 15
Rubber cheese - crepe soling

Hi Christopher,

Thanks for the info. I'll try to find it in the states and if no luck can order it through your company. I found a company here that looks to sell that type of product. Their link is

http://www.american-biltrite.com/Gen...Prod_Shoe.html

They have a couple different crepe soling products of various thicknesses, etc.

Do you have more specific info on the specs of the type you use?

Also, while we're at it, can you give me a ballpark estimate to replace tubes on an '85 Novurania...factory believes it to be Italian made vs. U.S. made... Model# MX PKD 01712 MDNA (picture attached).

Thank you for your help.

Cameron
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	Novurania MX 1000 (from starboard transom) 5.jpg
Views:	337
Size:	69.4 KB
ID:	47818  
Attached Files
File Type: pdf Crepe Soling.pdf (70.2 KB, 182 views)
__________________
geronimo21 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02 December 2009, 16:44   #7
Member
 
Country: USA
Town: Oakland CA
Length: 3m +
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 6,653
Might also look at Cratex (might be Kratex; don't remember) products; they are an abrasive rubber compound mounted on an arbor, used in Dremel type tools (smaller sizes) or hand-held electric drills (larger sizes.)

They're used in lapidary and gunsmithing shops pretty often.

As with any abrasive material on inflatable boat fabric, go slow if you use them.


jky
__________________
jyasaki is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02 December 2009, 16:51   #8
Member
 
Country: USA
Town: Oxnard
Boat name: Novurania
Make: Novurania
Length: 4m +
Engine: Yamaha 40hp outboard
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 15
Old glue removal - Kratex / Cratex

jky,

Thanks for the tip. I will look for that. I was thinking a dremmel tool used very carefully might work well for old glue removal. Thanks again. - Cameron
__________________
geronimo21 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02 December 2009, 16:54   #9
Member
 
Country: USA
Town: Oxnard
Boat name: Novurania
Make: Novurania
Length: 4m +
Engine: Yamaha 40hp outboard
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 15
Cratex abrasives (link attached) - for glue removal

jky,

found them here: http://www.cratex.com/rubindx.htm

website states they are "rubberized abrasives"...that sounds promising. I'm going to do some more research on their site.

thanks again.
__________________
geronimo21 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02 December 2009, 16:57   #10
Member
 
Country: UK - Scotland
Make: HumberOceanOffshore
Length: 8m +
Engine: Volvo KAD300/DPX
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 5,596
Just an idea for you. There is a product which looks and feels very like crepe rubber. It is used for unclogging abrasive sanding belts and sanding discs. It comes as a bar about 50mm square section and it is used by feeding into the belt, it's grippy and drags debris from between the abrasive. Of course it also gets itself sanded away on the process. I guess it'll be available in other shapes and sizes for various applications.
__________________
JW.
jwalker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02 December 2009, 17:52   #11
Member
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Somerset
Boat name: Ashling
Make: Scorpion
Length: 8m +
Engine: Mercury 225
Join Date: Jun 2001
Posts: 270
Do you have more specific info on the specs of the type you use?

Cameron

Unfortunately I do not have the spec available. All I know is that we have been using it for 30 plus years. If you manage to obtain it locally make certain that the density is quite high and go for a thickness of about 10mm. If it is too soft and not thick enough you will find it not very efective at removing the adhesive especially around edges of fabric, patches, handles etc.
Will PM you about the Novurania
__________________
Chris Hornidge

www.henshaw.co.uk
Christopher is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02 December 2009, 20:32   #12
Member
 
Country: USA
Town: Oxnard
Boat name: Novurania
Make: Novurania
Length: 4m +
Engine: Yamaha 40hp outboard
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 15
rubber cheese

Thank you for your recommendation. I look forward to your PM on the Novurania.
__________________
geronimo21 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05 December 2009, 09:14   #13
Member
 
Country: USA
Town: Oxnard
Boat name: Novurania
Make: Novurania
Length: 4m +
Engine: Yamaha 40hp outboard
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 15
rubber cheese

JW - thanks for the tip. Any ideas where to purchase the product? Home Depot, Lowes, Harbor Freight?
__________________
geronimo21 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07 December 2009, 16:53   #14
Member
 
Country: USA
Town: Oakland CA
Length: 3m +
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 6,653
http://www.amazon.com/LARGE-SANDING-.../dp/B000H69U7Q

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=30766

http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?actio...454&lpage=none

Bunch more if you search for "sanding +belt +cleaner"


jky
__________________
jyasaki is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07 December 2009, 21:21   #15
Member
 
Country: USA
Town: Oxnard
Boat name: Novurania
Make: Novurania
Length: 4m +
Engine: Yamaha 40hp outboard
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 15
rubber cheese

jky - thanks for the links...now I know what you're talking about. thanks again.
__________________
geronimo21 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08 December 2009, 16:54   #16
Member
 
Country: USA
Town: Oakland CA
Length: 3m +
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 6,653
Quote:
Originally Posted by geronimo21 View Post
jky - thanks for the links...now I know what you're talking about. thanks again.
Not me; it was JW. I just did the search.

jky
__________________
jyasaki is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27 August 2012, 20:54   #17
Member
 
Country: Canada
Town: Queen Charlotte
Boat name: Rubber Duck
Make: AB
Length: 6m +
Engine: 2X 70HP Suzuki
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 2
crepes

Hello folks, new here and looking for useful info on glue removal. Thanks for all the great advices.

The crepes bars for cleaning sand belts is the stuff for sure. I tried it and it works fine. Most hardware store carry it.

Patrick
__________________
Blackbox is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27 August 2012, 22:39   #18
Member
 
Peter_C's Avatar
 
Country: USA
Town: NorCal
Boat name: SHARKY
Make: AB
Length: 4m +
Engine: Honda BF75 & BF5
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 2,108
Old thread...

I used scuffy pad and acetone on my PVC boat. The scuffy pad takes the glue into it, so it needs to be cut into smaller pieces from the sheet, and thrown away often. I have a small container I fill with acetone and dip the scuffy pad in and then scrub with it. Of course while wearing proper chemical gear.

__________________
Peter_C is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27 August 2012, 23:09   #19
Member
 
kiwiboyd's Avatar
 
Country: USA
Town: Fort Lauderdale
Make: Fluid 10.6m
Length: 9m +
Engine: 2x Mercury 300hp
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 324
Send a message via Skype™ to kiwiboyd
we used 4" pc of EPDM rubstrake/rubrail, it's just like using an eraser.
__________________
Boyd Tomkies
Mob (410) 212 3214
Email boyd@siroccomarine.com
https://www.siroccomarine.com
kiwiboyd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28 August 2012, 01:14   #20
Member
 
Country: USA
Town: Oakland CA
Length: 3m +
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 6,653
Thanks Boyd; would never have thought of that.

jky
__________________
jyasaki is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off




All times are GMT. The time now is 23:35.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.