the rib vs the whaler

[captnjack]

Originally Posted by Bigtalljv

mine is, 9' fully inflated i think, not sure about the Parker, I don't think it is. It lived on a trailer in it's previous life.

Are you going to have to get a permit every time you use it? Or just sneak around or??

[clloyd]

Hurricane 733 and Willard 730 are 9' 6" wide inflated.

[captnjack]

Originally Posted by clloyd

Hurricane 733 and Willard 730 are 9' 6" wide inflated.

You could trailer them deflated, get an overwidth permit, or just go and hope you don't get pulled over...

[ncp]

Originally Posted by clloyd

Hurricane 733 and Willard 730 are 9' 6" wide inflated.

Willard is 9'0, so is a H733. Otec's are 9'6

Originally Posted by captnjack

You could trailer them deflated, get an overwidth permit, or just go and hope you don't get pulled over...

In CA, anything over 8'6 needs a permit. ~$95/yr. If it's under 10'0, you never need a pilot car(s). I believe over 10'0 you start getting into the range for needing single use permits which add up if you have to get one every time you take the boat out.

Last time I got my trailer serviced, a guy was picking up his 42' x 12' boat on a triple axle aluminum (he wanted to keep weight down) and he just said oversized load banners front & rear, and keep off the road 5-9AM and 4P-7P for restrictions. He didn't mention a single use permit or not.

[captnjack]

I don't think we have annual overwidth permits. They are single use up here and $10 each (good for 3 days). No pilot car required for 9ft width.

[clloyd]

Oops, ncp is right. 9' on the Willard. Add in the trailer guides and it's 9'6", unless I take them off which is not a bad idea.

[Bigtalljv]

I hadn't given it much thought yet, been too busy trying to make it float! Pay the fee, let out a little air, or roll the dice, either option would work. Chance of a cop pulling me over for being 6" over limit...very slim I assume.

Jason

[captnjack]

I've been considering selling my 15.5ft ali RIB for a Willard w diesel stern drive. So the whole "how to I get it to the boat ramp" issue is on my mind. WA state ferries can take vehicles >8.5ft wide, but only on certain sailings, ditto BC ferries. Neither are likely to ignore the extra 6"+

[Bigtalljv]

letting air out of the tubes will solve the problem. It doesn't even take that much out to slim down some.

[captnjack]

Originally Posted by Bigtalljv

letting air out of the tubes will solve the problem. It doesn't even take that much out to slim down some.

Does the fabric end up flopping in the wind?

[ncp]

Originally Posted by captnjack

WA state ferries can take vehicles >8.5ft wide, but only on certain sailings, ditto BC ferries. Neither are likely to ignore the extra 6"+

Originally Posted by Bigtalljv

letting air out of the tubes will solve the problem. It doesn't even take that much out to slim down some.

Electric pump makes it a whole lot easier!

[clloyd]

flopping?, no way, does an elephant flop in the wind?

The wing tubes are like elephant hide. Thick.

This guy was out with us 2 weeks ago (trailers that whaler everywhere shooting photos, nice guy), we were both photo and rescue boats for a sailboat race in the gorge. Only 15-20 kts of breeze, some steep chop but not terrible like it gets here.



Was talking to him and he added water ballast tanks to his Whaler to help with the stability and pounding in the chop. He said it was 2000lbs of water in custom tanks. Looks like it still gets air! Not sure how much was in there when this was taken.

Anyway one conversation we had was when it was time to go back upwind into the chop to check on a straggler. He was like, no way going back there into that pounding. Can you go?

Not fair to compare a 24' rib with a 20' whaler but point taken. The Willards are substantial and well grounded with that huge deep v.

But we could just cruise into it at 25kts cruise and it felt like flat water.

Whatever, different horses for different courses.

There is this same thread in the Whaler forum!!! lol

Whaler photo - Paul Todd outsideimages.com
Willard photo - Sean Trew

[jyasaki]

Originally Posted by Bigtalljv

I hadn't given it much thought yet, been too busy trying to make it float! Pay the fee, let out a little air, or roll the dice, either option would work. Chance of a cop pulling me over for being 6" over limit...very slim I assume.

Jason

Risk is more what happen should you hit someone, I'd guess.

jky

[captnjack]

Originally Posted by clloyd

flopping?, no way, does an elephant flop in the wind?

The wing tubes are like elephant hide. Thick.

That's what I assumed, but going 70mph on the highway I wasn't sure if they'd stay put or not.