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24 August 2010, 19:42
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4x4 choice
Hello, I am thinking getting a roomy 4x4 and a discovery fits the bill.
Due to prices I will be limited to something in the 1990`s and I was wondering if there were any "known issues" with these vehicles.
Another possibility is the land cruiser, but again, I dont know much about these vehicles.
Any thoughts?
Thanks, Nick.
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24 August 2010, 19:53
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"known issues"
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Exploding engines for starters. This question is likely to reboot the whole Landy versus the world argument.........
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24 August 2010, 20:04
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Exploding engines for starters. This question is likely to reboot the whole Landy versus the world argument......... ![big grin](https://www.rib.net/forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
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No it will crash the forum ![eek](https://www.rib.net/forum/images/smilies/eek.gif) .. having said that.... we dont have Codders anymore ... ![sick](https://www.rib.net/forum/images/smilies/sick.gif) .. where are you man ?
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24 August 2010, 20:04
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the boot floor tends to rust pretty well also around the forward section of the rear arches, landys will usually need a track rod end or steering joint come mot time, other than that they are ok
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24 August 2010, 20:11
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Exploding engines for starters. This question is likely to reboot the whole Landy versus the world argument......... ![big grin](https://www.rib.net/forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
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Go on Bruce tell him how good your new Sorento is and how happy you are to have joined our happy band of Kia owners!! ![big grin](https://www.rib.net/forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
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24 August 2010, 20:32
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Originally Posted by nik
Hello, I am thinking getting a roomy 4x4 and a discovery fits the bill.
Due to prices I will be limited to something in the 1990`s and I was wondering if there were any "known issues" with these vehicles.
Another possibility is the land cruiser, but again, I dont know much about these vehicles.
Any thoughts?
Thanks, Nick.
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80 series 4.2 diesel manual landcruiser with low mileage would be the car to go for. there are still a lot of good ones out there.
regards
Hector
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24 August 2010, 21:52
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Spam time
www.lr4x4.com is the place to go for Land Rover advice
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24 August 2010, 21:56
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other than that they are ok
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Try telling that to all the circa 90's Disco owners whos engines overheated, warped the head, blew the gasket and screwed up their engines.
I can only think of one out of 5 owners in my old dive club that didn't need an engine rebuild or new engine by the time they were 4-5 years old.
The jury is still out on the Kia, I like it, it tows extremely well, is comfy, economical and seems pretty loaded with toys. Ask me in a few years when I will know it it will last and is reliable.
Then I will start singing its praises, till then I'll keep quiet just in case
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24 August 2010, 22:47
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The jury is still out on the Kia, I like it, it tows extremely well, is comfy, economical and seems pretty loaded with toys. Ask me in a few years when I will know it it will last and is reliable. Then I will start singing its praises, till then I'll keep quiet just in case ![big grin](https://www.rib.net/forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
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In a Jeremy Clarkson voice.... " And lets talk about the agents who supplied them .. with warranty (dropping tone but uplifting again)............ some say... they will support the buyers till the end ... but .. do they ? .........oh no ........ they dont .... you see .. on Rib gear .. we tell it like it is and if a Kia dealer has a problem .. Kia doesnt really like to know ![sad](https://www.rib.net/forum/images/smilies/frown.gif) (pheonix Ba*tar*s)
And now back to our tame Kia owner Yorkshire Muz
Fookin ell Jezza tha was on it lad .. bast*ds they woz.. nothin in it but fo them selves
I 'ad busted aer con, fooked mirraz, ant dodgy gear shift int me sedona.... ant dealer said .. "av you been taxyin lad" ? .. fookin 200 miles I'd done ! Ah decked 'im and poot keys where 't sun do'on't shine
5 year warranty though
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24 August 2010, 23:53
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Get a nice Vauxhall Monterey or an Isuzu trooper 3.1 TD, they're the same car (trooper). Brilliant and never let me down in the year I've had it with the exception of the rad falling to bits, but that was a known problem before I bought it.
It's roomy and responsive (much better than a couple of Discos I've driven) and mine returns a reliable 30 mpg (33 on a run and 28 with the trailer attached).
Loads of spares for them on ebay too, but you won't need em!
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24 August 2010, 23:56
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Get a nice Vauxhall Monterey or an Isuzu trooper 3.1 TD, they're the same car (trooper). Brilliant and never let me down in the year I've had it with the exception of the rad falling to bits, but that was a known problem before I bought it.
It's roomy and responsive (much better than a couple of Discos I've driven) and mine returns a reliable 30 mpg (33 on a run and 28 with the trailer attached).
Loads of spares for them on ebay too, but you won't need em!
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Or the 2.8TD Frontera.Same engine bar 300cc. Same running gear, less rot
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25 August 2010, 07:54
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Hi Nik
You gotta try a 300 series disco with a 3.9 v8 and lpg, you will like the power, quiteness, smoothness and the economy.
Ian
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25 August 2010, 09:26
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Then I will start singing its praises, till then I'll keep quiet just in case ![big grin](https://www.rib.net/forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif) [/QUOTE]
I'd keep quiet too if i had a KIA, probably blacken out the windows too and build a garage so nobody saw me get in and out of it.
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25 August 2010, 09:36
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Then I will start singing its praises, till then I'll keep quiet just in case ![big grin](https://www.rib.net/forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
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I'd keep quiet too if i had a KIA, probably blacken out the windows too and build a garage so nobody saw me get in and out of it. ![big grin](https://www.rib.net/forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif) [/QUOTE]
There must be something right with them as the Sorento has been voted the European towing car of the year four times and they have a seven year warranty. maybe it is just a bit of 'badge' snobbery!!
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25 August 2010, 10:04
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I'd keep quiet too if i had a KIA, probably blacken out the windows too and build a garage so nobody saw me get in and out of it. ![big grin](https://www.rib.net/forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
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There must be something right with them as the Sorento has been voted the European towing car of the year four times and they have a seven year warranty. maybe it is just a bit of 'badge' snobbery!! [/QUOTE]
Definitely badge snobbery, rightly or wrongly, unfortunately i still care to some degree about my street credibility, though with each year of age, the balance shifts from credibility to value. When I'm a grandad, maybe i'll get a kia. For now, I just couldn't do it.
Skoda on the other hand, they seem to have built some credibility, I'd get one of them at about 45.
It's a crazy materialistic, peer pressured and marketing orientated world we live in!
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25 August 2010, 10:11
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Thanks for the replies, I had not appreciated the land rover had so many problems.
I will bear the isuzu in mind but the landcruisers seem to have a good rep.
This will not be doing a lot of miles by the way.
Nick.
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25 August 2010, 10:43
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There must be something right with them as the Sorento has been voted the European towing car of the year four times and they have a seven year warranty. maybe it is just a bit of 'badge' snobbery!!
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Definitely badge snobbery, rightly or wrongly, unfortunately i still care to some degree about my street credibility, though with each year of age, the balance shifts from credibility to value. When I'm a grandad, maybe i'll get a kia. For now, I just couldn't do it.
Skoda on the other hand, they seem to have built some credibility, I'd get one of them at about 45.
It's a crazy materialistic, peer pressured and marketing orientated world we live in! [/QUOTE]
Cheers Paul exactly how I felt before I hit 60!! I have now to my credit I might add baught one and for the last two years it has done what it says on the label. I must confess to being a convert especially the towing aspect as Bruce says it is effortless and the car itself is well equip and comfortable and not to sore in the pocket. Thats why I do stick up for them, plus I dont give a shit about my street cred anymore, it suits me and does the job well I mean come on it has a Merc engine and all that.
Cheers mate and happy motoring
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25 August 2010, 11:28
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Went through similar thing earlier this year, my choice came down to a Discovery, Landcruiser, Shogun.
Discovery's seem to have to many problems, the Landcruiser is great but quite pricey so i went for a Shogun in the end. So far its been great, tows the rib really well, pretty noisy though.
My sister has a Kia, has had nothing but bother with it and rubbish service from the dealership.
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25 August 2010, 11:32
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Went through similar thing earlier this year, my choice came down to a Discovery, Landcruiser, Shogun.
Discovery's seem to have to many problems, the Landcruiser is great but quite pricey so i went for a Shogun in the end. So far its been great, tows the rib really well, pretty noisy though.
My sister has a Kia, has had nothing but bother with it and rubbish service from the dealership.
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Get him Jambo!
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25 August 2010, 11:57
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Get him Jambo!
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Naw he might be bigger than me!! Remember theres no such thing as 100%, things happen!!
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