Bying a pick up in UK - Page 2

havener · 03 March 2010, 09:54

We run both L200s and Navaras for boat towing and general response, both are immensely capable vehicles. The L200s are old shape, the main one having done 100k in about 3 years with (touching wood) nothing going wrong at all, just the usual consumables. A fair bit of that mileage is towing a 6.5m rib running on blues and twos, so the vehicle is worked pretty hard.
We looked at the Toyotas but their payload is low and operating costs pretty high by comparison.
Both the L200 and Nissan will do the job for you, but personal preference puts the Mitsi ahead.

hector · 03 March 2010, 20:13

Havener what is the purpose of your blue light journeys?

havener · 04 March 2010, 13:33

We respond on behalf of a number of agencies for various "interesting" jobs - heavily involved in flood response and also handle support taskings for an EOD unit to areas which have no police boat capability.
http://www.maritime-response.co.uk will tell you a bit more...

bedajim · 04 March 2010, 13:54

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Originally Posted by willk

Navara

(unless it's cheepity cheap!)

Why's that then ?

willk · 04 March 2010, 15:01

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Originally Posted by bedajim

Why's that then ?

Because

hector · 06 March 2010, 17:05

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Originally Posted by havener

We respond on behalf of a number of agencies for various "interesting" jobs - heavily involved in flood response and also handle support taskings for an EOD unit to areas which have no police boat capability.
http://www.maritime-response.co.uk will tell you a bit more...

Havener is it ex or serving fire service personnel you use for the swift waterstuff? With regard to blue light journeys i know the coast guard can run blue lights but have to proceed at normal road speeds! does the same apply to you?

willk · 06 March 2010, 17:13

Havener: Don't volunteer any information and remember that you get one phone call. I know several good, I mean, efficient solicitors.

chewy · 06 March 2010, 17:53

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Originally Posted by willk

Havener: Don't volunteer any information and remember that you get one phone call. I know several good, I mean, efficient solicitors.

I think he means is gets screwed from cold and turned off with out letting the engine idle for a bit after a hard run.

bogib · 07 March 2010, 00:54

If I would take own vehicle to continent Europe by ferry or Eurotunnel what documentations would I need and what insurance do I need to have from the insurance company ?

Bogi

Neil Harvey · 07 March 2010, 10:49

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Originally Posted by bogib

If I would take own vehicle to continent Europe by ferry or Eurotunnel what documentations would I need and what insurance do I need to have from the insurance company ?

Bogi

err off top of head, insurance doc that covers you abroad, drivers license.

then if you are planning on leaving it there, there's I think a whole set of other rules,but not sure on those. From this website (the DVLA is the UK licensing authority):-
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring...le/DG_10014623

"Visitors to the UK can usually use a vehicle displaying foreign numberplates for six months provided all motoring taxes are paid in the originating country. This can consist of one single or several shorter visits in any 12 month period.
"
The important word in that quote is "usually" - check the website for more details.

I think they assume you have insurance from your own country. You'd need to check you can get that to cover you 6 months abroad, but someone should do it.

It's looking like this could be a cheaper option for me in future, I'd get a car over there for summer months when I need it for the boat, and one here for the winter and mountains.

Good luck with it Bogi

bogib · 07 March 2010, 21:41

Checked for insurance and I must say very high

...... or am I wrong.

Here the two lowest insurance quotes do cover 4 of our cars

Any recommendations to whom to talk ?

Bogi

chewy · 07 March 2010, 21:55

That quotes for an Audi?

Poly · 07 March 2010, 22:10

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Originally Posted by bogib

Checked for insurance and I must say very high

...... or am I wrong.

Here the two lowest insurance quotes do cover 4 of our cars

Any recommendations to whom to talk ?

Bogi

Bogi - I'm guessing part of the reason it is so high is you have zero no claims bonus in the UK. Not having a UK license isn't going to help. This may be one of the rare occasions that an insurance broker can help, or certainly talking to the company may help (if, e.g. you can prove you've had no claims back home).

EDIT: For comparison purposes - if I was insuring that vehicle (at my home address) I could do it for less than £250 full comp with a £650 excess, no european driving or "add ons" etc - or for less than £500 with a £200 excess, breakdown cover, legal cover, no claims protection, and all the 'add ons' turned on.

bogib · 07 March 2010, 22:21

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Originally Posted by Polwart

Bogi - I'm guessing part of the reason it is so high is you have zero no claims bonus in the UK. Not having a UK license isn't going to help. This may be one of the rare occasions that an insurance broker can help, or certainly talking to the company may help (if, e.g. you can prove you've had no claims back home).

I am to talk to my insurence provider to see what he can provide and assist, have had driving license for 32 years zero claims

Bogi

willk · 07 March 2010, 23:17

Was that quote given after the result of the Icesave Referendum was announced Bogi?

Seroiusly though, Polwart gave good advice. There might be some issues putting the young lads on the policy - may be necessary to find a work-round for them?

Poly · 08 March 2010, 08:17

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Originally Posted by willk

Seroiusly though, Polwart gave good advice. There might be some issues putting the young lads on the policy - may be necessary to find a work-round for them?

Certainly if you have any young 'inexperienced' drivers on there (which to an insurance company would mean anyone under 21-25 depending on their own rules) then the best quote is probably similar to you would get with a UK license and UK no claims bonus!. If that (or any other named drivers) are pushing up the cost of the policy then, especially as they are only going to be using it intermittently, I would insure it in your own name only. And then add them only when they are going to use it (either to the same policy or under a short term policy from the likes of dayinsure).

havener · 08 March 2010, 09:29

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Originally Posted by hector

Havener is it ex or serving fire service personnel you use for the swift waterstuff? With regard to blue light journeys i know the coast guard can run blue lights but have to proceed at normal road speeds! does the same apply to you?

OK, at the risk of getting the matches under the fingernails, I'll talk

Our response parameters are set by our contracting authority - for example one police force we work for we run fully blues and twos but normally they will arrange an escort for us, usually a bike if they can find one running (sorry lads, you know who you are lol). We qualify under as being "used for police purposes" and that covers us. To be honest, I very rarely worry about the speed limits because towing faster than road conditions doesn't come into it - running blues has a "rabbit in headlights" effect on most drivers so they are used sparingly, mostly in town traffic to get us UP to the giddy heights of 30mph, not over.

Some of our team are ex fire service, although that doesn't give much advantage to be honest, water rescue is still new to them so there isn't a vast pool of hugely experienced water rescuers. We have some ex LB crew, and all are retrained anyway every two years.