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19 November 2009, 19:49
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Country: UK - Wales
Town: swansea
Boat name: Too Blue
Make: BLANK
Length: 8m +
Engine: Suzuki DT225
Join Date: Mar 2004
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The Discovery 1 is pretty agricultural - the best is the Disco 2 as it still has been axles and a proper chassis but is a lot more refined.
The Disco 3/4 is incredible - far far better on road but in extreme conditions beam axles are much tougher - less likely to get hung up and work better over boulders etc.
Someone pointed out the integrity of the tow hitch. That is a very good point. A proper chassis/rear crossmember is essential for a tough attachment point. On road towing is ok with modern towbars but offroad its a different story as they get lots of sideloads they were never designed for.
As to the Mer ML a mate of mine bought one after his Discovery 1 - much more refined and much nicer to drive - but crap at towing his horseboxes over rough ground. He had a nasty shock when he took his usual shortcut out of Tesco over a concrete curb/bank. Fine in the Disco - the Merc turned into a seesaw!!!
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20 November 2009, 09:09
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Country: UK - England
Town: Salcombe, Devon, UK
Boat name: BananaShark
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Length: 10m +
Engine: 2xYanmar 260 diesels
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I realise I may be repeating myself, but the V10 5 litre VW Tuareg will tow pretty much anything, has air suspension so it can be raised and lowered and their second hand values are the lowest of anything else - don't ask me why as they are as reliable as any other VW!
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Originally Posted by Zippy
When a boat looks that good who needs tubes!!!
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20 November 2009, 10:18
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Country: UK - England
Town: Mighty Penryn
Boat name: Little Joe.
Make: Avon Searider
Length: 4m +
Engine: Honda BF50
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Originally Posted by Cookee
...second hand values are the lowest of anything else - don't ask me why as they are as reliable as any other VW!
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Loony fuel consumption Cookee. A Disco 3 will do the air suss thing with a little better mpg. The residual on a D3 is strong though.
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20 November 2009, 10:31
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Sheepy Parva
Boat name: Sadly Sold
Length: no boat
Join Date: Sep 2008
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Originally Posted by codprawn
The Disco 3/4 is incredible
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Just picked up a D4 (to go with our boats d2 and d3...nice). The D4 is the dogs bolox and some
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21 November 2009, 10:11
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Salcombe, Devon, UK
Boat name: BananaShark
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Length: 10m +
Engine: 2xYanmar 260 diesels
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Originally Posted by Mollers
Loony fuel consumption Cookee. A Disco 3 will do the air suss thing with a little better mpg. The residual on a D3 is strong though.
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On a trip up to Northumberland and Edinburgh with lots of varied driving from motorway to single tracks stuff in National parks I got over 25mpg over the week - not bad for what you get I think, and the performance is outstanding to say the least!
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Originally Posted by Zippy
When a boat looks that good who needs tubes!!!
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21 November 2009, 10:17
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Country: UK - England
Town: Mighty Penryn
Boat name: Little Joe.
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Originally Posted by Cookee
On a trip up to Northumberland and Edinburgh with lots of varied driving from motorway to single tracks stuff in National parks I got over 25mpg over the week - not bad for what you get I think, and the performance is outstanding to say the least!
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Yep, not bad. We'd expect 30 on a long trip from the D3, 24ish around town.
Keep a close eye on tyre pressures Cookee, it helps considerably. I run between the recommended unloaded and loaded pressures
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21 November 2009, 12:05
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Member
Country: Other
Town: Principalite d'Chaos
Boat name: The Nashers Revenge!
Make: Windsor Brothers
Length: 6m +
Engine: Optimax 225
MMSI: "Mmmmm SI" she said!
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Does the VW come with 7 seats?
Nasher.
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21 November 2009, 15:36
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Country: Other
Town: East Coast
Make: Chaudron 33
Length: 6m +
Engine: Black uns
MMSI: dunno wot this iz
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 161
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Originally Posted by codprawn
The Discovery 1 is pretty agricultural - the best is the Disco 2 as it still has been axles and a proper chassis but is a lot more refined.
The Disco 3/4 is incredible - far far better on road but in extreme conditions beam axles are much tougher - less likely to get hung up and work better over boulders etc.
Someone pointed out the integrity of the tow hitch. That is a very good point. A proper chassis/rear crossmember is essential for a tough attachment point. On road towing is ok with modern towbars but offroad its a different story as they get lots of sideloads they were never designed for.
As to the Mer ML a mate of mine bought one after his Discovery 1 - much more refined and much nicer to drive - but crap at towing his horseboxes over rough ground. He had a nasty shock when he took his usual shortcut out of Tesco over a concrete curb/bank. Fine in the Disco - the Merc turned into a seesaw!!!
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Do you mean this thread Codders?
http://rib.net/forum/showthread.php?...ge+rover+sport
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21 November 2009, 20:37
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Horsham
Boat name: Y Knot
Make: Avon, rubber company
Length: 5m +
Engine: Yamaha 75hp
Join Date: Oct 2009
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Amazing how many members of this forum seem to own land Rovers but dont like to admit it?? Come on comrades, own up and admit you own the very best that British engineering can offer, the ultimate drive!!
Im not biased though!!!
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21 November 2009, 23:19
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Glasgow
Boat name: stramash
Make: Tornado
Length: 5m +
Engine: Etec 90
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 5,090
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Originally Posted by Knot Yet 2
Amazing how many members of this forum seem to own land Rovers but dont like to admit it?? Come on comrades, own up and admit you own the very best that British engineering can offer, the ultimate drive!!
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Stop talking pish and get down to a multifranchise dealer and open your eyes
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21 November 2009, 23:23
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: N Wales Chester
Boat name: Mr Smith
Make: Humber
Length: 6m +
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 5,238
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Originally Posted by Cookee
I realise I may be repeating myself, but the V10 5 litre VW Tuareg will tow pretty much anything, has air suspension so it can be raised and lowered and their second hand values are the lowest of anything else - don't ask me why as they are as reliable as any other VW!
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probably insurance and mainly fuel economy. My boss has one and if he floors it he has to head for the garage! He'll be there in no time but I have to take a pay cut for him to fill it up. Awesome piece of kit if you do no mileage.
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22 November 2009, 09:52
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Salcombe, Devon, UK
Boat name: BananaShark
Make: BananaShark
Length: 10m +
Engine: 2xYanmar 260 diesels
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 4,225
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Originally Posted by Nasher
Does the VW come with 7 seats?
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Only five in mine, don't think they do a seven seat version?
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Originally Posted by Zippy
When a boat looks that good who needs tubes!!!
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22 November 2009, 12:27
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Member
Country: Other
Town: Principalite d'Chaos
Boat name: The Nashers Revenge!
Make: Windsor Brothers
Length: 6m +
Engine: Optimax 225
MMSI: "Mmmmm SI" she said!
Join Date: Jan 2004
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Originally Posted by Cookee
Only five in mine, don't think they do a seven seat version?
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Thanks cookee, it's a shame as I use the 7 seats in my Shogun quite a lot and don't think I could do without them now.
Nasher.
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27 November 2009, 18:10
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Country: UK - England
Town: Horsham
Boat name: Y Knot
Make: Avon, rubber company
Length: 5m +
Engine: Yamaha 75hp
Join Date: Oct 2009
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Originally Posted by Nasher
Thanks cookee, it's a shame as I use the 7 seats in my Shogun quite a lot and don't think I could do without them now.
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12 seats in a Defender 110 CSW!!
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27 November 2009, 18:18
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Member
Country: Other
Town: Principalite d'Chaos
Boat name: The Nashers Revenge!
Make: Windsor Brothers
Length: 6m +
Engine: Optimax 225
MMSI: "Mmmmm SI" she said!
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Posts: 4,919
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Originally Posted by Knot Yet 2
12 seats in a Defender 110 CSW!!
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Yes and I'd love one.
But, I do a lot of motorway miles.
Nasher
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27 November 2009, 18:20
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Horsham
Boat name: Y Knot
Make: Avon, rubber company
Length: 5m +
Engine: Yamaha 75hp
Join Date: Oct 2009
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So do I, dont worry, once your back is completely buggered it doesnt hurt anymore!
You can change the seats for comfy padded Jag ones though.
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27 November 2009, 18:41
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: West Wales
Make: Vipermax 5.8, SR4.7
Length: 5m +
Engine: 150 Opti, F50EFi
Join Date: Sep 2005
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I drove my mate's LR up the slipway a few weeks ago - that was far enough.
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27 November 2009, 18:43
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Mighty Penryn
Boat name: Little Joe.
Make: Avon Searider
Length: 4m +
Engine: Honda BF50
Join Date: Aug 2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Downhilldai
I drove my mate's LR up the slipway a few weeks ago - that was far enough.
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Groomie fitted Ford Ka seats in his. Driving it is actually not bad now if you remove your rt arm at the shoulder.
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27 November 2009, 18:51
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: West Wales
Make: Vipermax 5.8, SR4.7
Length: 5m +
Engine: 150 Opti, F50EFi
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 6,299
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mollers
Groomie fitted Ford Ka seats in his...
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Did he fit them in the back?
My knees were around my ear-oles with the seat all the way back - torture!
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