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28 May 2007, 08:13
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Member
Country: Ireland
Town: Ardmore
Boat name: Wavehopper
Make: Cobra 6.65 HD
Length: 6m +
Engine: Yam 150 hpdi
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 136
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Dedicated Launch/Recovery Vehicle
As some may be aware I bought a Cobra 6.65m a few months ago in Lymington and then brought her back to her new home in Ireland. My plan had always been for her to live on her trailer alongside a place we have on the East coast in Waterford. This location is less than a mile from a slipway and had planned to launch/recover from there as and when required. However the feckin slipway has turned out to be a dog - soft sand settling, shallow gradient, etc. - so I had thought about getting rid of the rib! (Yes I have tried using ropes from my jeep to the trailer, but all I have is an Xtrail and she's just not up to it)
However, after being out again this past weekend my family and I have come to the conclusion that this is too much fun to pass up on, so a solution must be found. So I'm turning to you guys.
There's a guy across the road from me who has a smaller rib and uses a really (and I mean REALLY) bashed up old land-cruiser just for launching and recovery. This thing now has most of its parts on the ground around it (rust) and he plans to change it. I'm going to talk to him next weekend about the two of us going splits on a replacement and would like to here from you lot about some suggestions.
Here's our requirements:
- Must be bloody good at pulling a rib out of a shallow slipway which sometimes has soft sand
(Yup, that's about it!)
This thing only needs to travel less than a mile down a lane so it doesn't have to be a 'looker' - any aul piece of crap will do, just so long as it'll do the job.
The type of thing that might be considered would be an old landie (anyone recall where those ex-MOD ones are sold?) or maybe even an old tractor. In any case we've got to this this cheaply. It's only being used to launch and recover our boats, and we're not made of money!!
Anyone got any thoughts/suggestions?
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28 May 2007, 09:03
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Gloucestershire
Boat name: Osprey
Make: Osprey Vipermax
Length: 5m +
Engine: E-tec 300 G2
MMSI: TBC
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 4,021
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I guess any of the larger 4WDs will do it
Landrover
Toyota
Nissan
Don't rule out a Lada Riva.
I guess if you are trying to pull on soft mud or sand then one of the most important items will be some Fat tyres with good grip.
I would then get the underside of the chassis sprayed with old engine oil to protect it against to repeated dunkings.
Chris
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28 May 2007, 09:03
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Country: UK - England
Town: Rutland
Length: no boat
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 2,500
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Originally Posted by blimp
As some may be aware I bought a Cobra 6.65m a few months ago in Lymington and then brought her back to her new home in Ireland. My plan had always been for her to live on her trailer alongside a place we have on the East coast in Waterford. This location is less than a mile from a slipway and had planned to launch/recover from there as and when required. However the feckin slipway has turned out to be a dog - soft sand settling, shallow gradient, etc. - so I had thought about getting rid of the rib! (Yes I have tried using ropes from my jeep to the trailer, but all I have is an Xtrail and she's just not up to it)
However, after being out again this past weekend my family and I have come to the conclusion that this is too much fun to pass up on, so a solution must be found. So I'm turning to you guys.
There's a guy across the road from me who has a smaller rib and uses a really (and I mean REALLY) bashed up old land-cruiser just for launching and recovery. This thing now has most of its parts on the ground around it (rust) and he plans to change it. I'm going to talk to him next weekend about the two of us going splits on a replacement and would like to here from you lot about some suggestions.
Here's our requirements:
- Must be bloody good at pulling a rib out of a shallow slipway which sometimes has soft sand
(Yup, that's about it!)
This thing only needs to travel less than a mile down a lane so it doesn't have to be a 'looker' - any aul piece of crap will do, just so long as it'll do the job.
The type of thing that might be considered would be an old landie (anyone recall where those ex-MOD ones are sold?) or maybe even an old tractor. In any case we've got to this this cheaply. It's only being used to launch and recover our boats, and we're not made of money!!
Anyone got any thoughts/suggestions?
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I'd look at the tractor, 2wd with a diff lock is normal for the small old ones, no mot, min tax can go into the water easy to fix (needs a roll bar)
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28 May 2007, 10:24
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Country: UK - England
Town: The wilds of Wiltshire
Boat name: Dominator
Make: SR5.4
Length: 7m +
Engine: Yam 85
MMSI: 235055163
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 13,069
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Lada Nivas don't have low enough gearing to deal with soft stuff.
If it's possible I'd go with the tractor or something with a PTO driven winch.
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28 May 2007, 10:54
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Mighty Penryn
Boat name: Little Joe.
Make: Avon Searider
Length: 4m +
Engine: Honda BF50
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 8,875
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4wd dumper. Take the butt off, articulated, good viz, go anywhere etc. Much cheaper than a tatty tractor. A lot of boat yards use them as shunters. Hose it off after use and slap grease/waxoil around where required.
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28 May 2007, 11:11
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Country: UK - England
Town: Bristol
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: Yamaha
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 4,299
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Go with Nos and Mollers, superb idea, less to go wrong and minimum maint ,!!!
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28 May 2007, 12:45
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: Southampton
Boat name: DynaMoHumm/ SRV/deja
Make: Avon8.4, 5.4 & 4.777
Length: 8m +
Engine: Cat3126 Yam 90 &70
MMSI: 42
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 6,562
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you can get kwite a lot of kids in a dumper on the school run as well
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28 May 2007, 13:30
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Mighty Penryn
Boat name: Little Joe.
Make: Avon Searider
Length: 4m +
Engine: Honda BF50
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 8,875
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rogue Wave
you can get kwite a lot of kids in a dumper on the school run as well
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Through the gates and tip 'em out.
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28 May 2007, 20:04
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Essex
Boat name: Cetacean Protector
Make: Plasteco Milano
Length: 5m +
Engine: 75hp
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 505
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Dumper is the way to go - here's one we did a couple of years ago, used by one of the local independant lifeboats.
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28 May 2007, 21:50
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Andover
Boat name: Vampire
Make: RIBCRAFT
Length: 7m +
Engine: Suzuki 300
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 58
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Ex MOD stuff
Hi you can find some really usefull and not so usefull stuff here (Fighter Jet|)
MOD Disposal Services Agency.
http://www.edisposals.com
Withams do most of the Vehicle disposals. Negotiate hard with them!!
Cheers
Greg
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28 May 2007, 21:51
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: swansea
Boat name: Too Blue
Make: BLANK
Length: 8m +
Engine: Suzuki DT225
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 12,791
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Beware - they are heavier than they look.
this one is used in soft sand all the time - never gets stuck!!!
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29 May 2007, 14:22
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Colchester/Clevedon
Boat name: Barracuda
Make: Porters
Length: 5m +
Engine: Tohatsu 50hp
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 249
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Get an old Toyota Hilux. You see them at boat yards all around the UK for one reason - They're tough as hell. You'll find decent old examples from £1200 or so.
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29 May 2007, 18:19
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Member
Country: France
Town: Côte d'Azur
Boat name: Beaver Patrol
Make: Avon Searider SR4
Length: 4m +
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 5,934
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29 May 2007, 21:28
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Member
Country: Ireland
Town: Ardmore
Boat name: Wavehopper
Make: Cobra 6.65 HD
Length: 6m +
Engine: Yam 150 hpdi
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 136
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Thanks Tim, we have a budget of about 1,000 euro each (2 of us) which would, all told, amount to about 1,400 quid .... leaving us only 173,600 quid short. Therefore I'm away now to check down the back of the sofa to shore up the small deficit.
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30 May 2007, 12:03
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Nr Tring
Boat name: Braveheart
Make: Porters Renegade
Length: 6m +
Engine: Tohatsu 140
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 305
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Originally Posted by blimp
Thanks Tim, we have a budget of about 1,000 euro each (2 of us) which would, all told, amount to about 1,400 quid .... leaving us only 173,600 quid short. Therefore I'm away now to check down the back of the sofa to shore up the small deficit.
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If I can have a go in it - I'll give you a quid - only 172,600 to go... not sure it will fit down the lanes though...
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30 May 2007, 12:59
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Member
Country: Ireland
Town: Ardmore
Boat name: Wavehopper
Make: Cobra 6.65 HD
Length: 6m +
Engine: Yam 150 hpdi
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 136
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Right then, that's it - all I need is 172,600 people that will each give me a quid. How hard could that be?
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30 May 2007, 13:26
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RIBnet admin team
Country: UK - England
Town: The wilds of Wiltshire
Boat name: Dominator
Make: SR5.4
Length: 7m +
Engine: Yam 85
MMSI: 235055163
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 13,069
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tim M
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I'm surprised you haven't tried to sell him this
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30 May 2007, 21:09
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Andover
Boat name: Vampire
Make: RIBCRAFT
Length: 7m +
Engine: Suzuki 300
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 58
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What about this baby
Its going for £3500 + VAT
Not by me I might ad !!!
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31 May 2007, 10:04
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Nr Tring
Boat name: Braveheart
Make: Porters Renegade
Length: 6m +
Engine: Tohatsu 140
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 305
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Quote:
Originally Posted by blimp
Right then, that's it - all I need is 172,600 people that will each give me a quid. How hard could that be?
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Not sure you would make it for this summer...
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01 June 2007, 10:17
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Member
Country: France
Town: Côte d'Azur
Boat name: Beaver Patrol
Make: Avon Searider SR4
Length: 4m +
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 5,934
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nos4r2
I'm surprised you haven't tried to sell him this
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