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13 November 2012, 08:43
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Country: UK - England
Town: Wirral & Caernarfon
Boat name: That's Enuff
Make: Revenger & Avon SR4
Length: 7m +
Engine: Honda 150HP & 50HP
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 4,423
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Originally Posted by BogMonster
And the showroom is where it will be staying
Also a vote for a D2, worth paying over the odds for a really good one. I have a nice 45,000 mile mint V8 auto for the right price
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Ah the burble of that lovely V8, I'm almost tempted myself but the 90 is almost sorted now
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13 November 2012, 15:40
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Surrey
Boat name: Fugly & Rokraider 1
Make: Pac 22 & Porter 6.5
Length: 6m +
Engine: Ford 250 & jet,DT140
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 681
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If you are going for a Disco with the Tdi engine, I wouldn't recommend going auto, they struggle to get off the mark empty, yet alone towing. Check all of the inner body panels for rust including the floor. They are rustbuckets. Avoid putting them in any kind of water, as the hub seals do not keep water out (or oil in on the 200 Tdi models). The last of the 300 Tdi engines were not bad, they had sorted out the cambelt issues by then. A good one is not a bad all rounder, not in the same league as a Land Cruiser of course.
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13 November 2012, 17:04
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: west mids /tywyn
Boat name: HAWK
Make: RIBCRAFT/ Suzuki 250
Length: 7m +
Engine: Tohatsu 3.8/15hpsuzi
MMSI: 235086594
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 4,270
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O i like the look of that mick
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13 November 2012, 17:13
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: LONDON
Make: SR4/ZODIAC/3D
Length: 4m +
Engine: 30T/40T
Join Date: Oct 2011
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Originally Posted by BogMonster
8 speed? They are truly going mad...
If you are looking for something to keep for 8-10 years I would not in a million years start with a six year old D3. Trust me, I was a LR dealer for 15 years - I still have my D2 for a good reason, and it isn't because I can't afford to replace it.
Lovely cars but something to buy, own for the warranty period plus maybe a year or two, and replace with another one. Designed for that, what happens to them at 15 years old is not part of the design. One we looked after had four turbos in less than 10,000 miles, and the electrics when they get old are going to be a nightmare.
A Defender is an acquired taste which you either acquire or you don't (I have one, I love it, I'd not be without it and neither would I drive it every day if I could avoid it). I don't know if you have ever owned one, but if you haven't, get a long drive first. You may hate it or you may be incurably smitten
The Defender isn't a model of reliability either, but there is nothing much too expensive, it's mostly fairly predictable what goes wrong, and most of it can be fixed at home if you are that way inclined.
Hate to say it but for that sort of ownership period I would be looking at Japanese vehicles.
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And there in lies the rub, get a Patrol........a 3.0. You will not regret it and still have £10k left to throw on the bonfire that you'd have had with the Land Rover.
Bogmonster........good call, esp from a dealer.
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13 November 2012, 17:20
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Sheepy Parva
Boat name: Sadly Sold
Length: no boat
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 1,731
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Wondered how long it'd take. I reckon you could turn an 'ole drilling thread into a Patr'ole' recommendation ;-)
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13 November 2012, 17:42
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: brierley hill
Boat name: rocknrolla
Make: osprey
Length: 7m +
Engine: outboard
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 713
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Originally Posted by HUMBER P4VWL
Budget £18k max.
Used for:
Towing 6.3 rib 2-4 times a year max, 100mile a pop
Longevity key, to be owned for 8-10 years
Much less than 10k a year for mainly short journeys.
Perhaps for 6 people on short journeys occasionally (110 then)
Currently looking at 06 or 07 D4HSE or 110, sub 60k
I like D4 as comfy, but will it last? Too many electrics, will it age and lose money more?
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I have just sold my 110 king cab o6 leather heated seats, air con ,heated f an r screen,what a tool neva had any shit with it,sad to c it go.Got d3 3 wks now we will C
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13 November 2012, 17:55
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: LONDON
Make: SR4/ZODIAC/3D
Length: 4m +
Engine: 30T/40T
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 1,433
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Originally Posted by Leapy
Wondered how long it'd take. I reckon you could turn an 'ole drilling thread into a Patr'ole' recommendation ;-)
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Don't tell me you've got twenty Seagulls strapped to your transom.............there's just the one big Nip.
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13 November 2012, 17:57
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: LONDON
Make: SR4/ZODIAC/3D
Length: 4m +
Engine: 30T/40T
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 1,433
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But seriously.........just weigh it up, get a Patrol.
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13 November 2012, 17:59
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Mighty Penryn
Boat name: Little Joe.
Make: Avon Searider
Length: 4m +
Engine: Honda BF50
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 8,875
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Originally Posted by mister p
But seriously.........just weigh it in, get a Patrol.
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13 November 2012, 18:02
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Wirral & Caernarfon
Boat name: That's Enuff
Make: Revenger & Avon SR4
Length: 7m +
Engine: Honda 150HP & 50HP
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 4,423
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Originally Posted by rocknrolla
I have just sold my 110 king cab o6 leather heated seats, air con ,heated f an r screen,what a tool neva had any shit with it,sad to c it go.Got d3 3 wks now we will C
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suppose an ol fella like you needs the comfort of a D3
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13 November 2012, 18:40
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Discovery 3 is good, auto a must as its so smooth. We looked at defender and its just terrible. Love the looks but inside was cramped and basic but that's what will make it go 120k and you can fix it with a hammer! Discovery 4 is better in every way but if budget restricts get a dicovery 3. Nice interior, and has all settings for traction control etc. if you can, get a later model of them be because they fixed problems and made body coloured numbers etc...
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13 November 2012, 21:11
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: N Wales Chester
Boat name: Mr Smith
Make: Humber
Length: 6m +
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 5,238
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To be fair as the budget won't stretch to late D3 or D4, there are some mint sub 60k full dealer history immaculate D2s for 8-9k. They do seem good value. Still fit for purpose for us. It'll only see water twice a year at most, even then it won't touch it. No offroading either other than on the farm track.
I take it auto is the best bet?
V8 petrol is just too thirsty like our current RRover. At 12mpg it costs a £3 to pop for milk, just daft. And to tow the boat somewhere far you may as well hire a boat at the destination!
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13 November 2012, 21:15
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Mighty Penryn
Boat name: Little Joe.
Make: Avon Searider
Length: 4m +
Engine: Honda BF50
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 8,875
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Originally Posted by HUMBER P4VWL
.. there are some mint sub 60k full dealer history immaculate D2s for 8-9k.
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I should think so!
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13 November 2012, 21:33
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Country: UK - England
Town: Porchfield
Boat name: Katie
Make: Stingher
Length: 10m +
Engine: Verado 350 x 2
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 697
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Originally Posted by HUMBER P4VWL
To be fair as the budget won't stretch to late D3 or D4, there are some mint sub 60k full dealer history immaculate D2s for 8-9k. They do seem good value. Still fit for purpose for us. It'll only see water twice a year at most, even then it won't touch it. No offroading either other than on the farm track.
I take it auto is the best bet?
V8 petrol is just too thirsty like our current RRover. At 12mpg it costs a £3 to pop for milk, just daft. And to tow the boat somewhere far you may as well hire a boat at the destination!
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Go for either an auto or..............an auto
Td5's are nice engines, you can always pop a chip on for a mild tune to make them even better!
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13 November 2012, 21:33
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I don't know if you know but landrovers currently have a range from s, gs, xs, se and hse being the top of the range. Obviously this doesn't apply to all the models as they call new cars different models but the hse has always been around and will have the best things so aim for that!
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13 November 2012, 21:36
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Country: UK - England
Town: Plymouth
Length: 6m +
Join Date: Mar 2011
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I'm also in the market for a new tow car. The X5 is ok but its now on 120,000 and just cost me 2k for a gearbox recon, so time to change again. This time I'm going either Disco 3 or VW Touareg V10 5L D - Looking at a budget of £20k plus PX on the X5 which I'm valuing at 5k. Ideally I'd like to stay sub 20 though, which seems to buy me a decent 58 Disco 3 with 50,000 miles.
What else should I be considering ?
Peter @ Boatsandoutboards4sale ~ askboatsandoutboards4sale@sky.com ~ 07930 421007
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13 November 2012, 21:41
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Wakefield
Boat name: Bouncer
Make: Redbay Stormforce
Length: 6m +
Engine: 2x Honda 100 Hp
MMSI: 235025718
Join Date: Jun 2009
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Anyone wanting a 4x4 before winter needs to pull a finger out if it snows prices will rocket
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13 November 2012, 21:56
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Country: UK - England
Town: onn de moov
Boat name: bote
Make: kevvin
Length: 4m +
Engine: jett dryve
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 455
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Originally Posted by Boats&Outboards
What else should I be considering ?
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13 November 2012, 22:04
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Ashton-under-Lyne Lancs
Boat name: IMOGEN
Make: Air-Craft 5.4
Length: 5m +
Engine: Suzuki df70a
MMSI: 235087492
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 7,078
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13 November 2012, 22:25
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: N Wales Chester
Boat name: Mr Smith
Make: Humber
Length: 6m +
Join Date: Feb 2009
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More research suggests LR are just not reliable until a D4. It seems they are the type of vehicle you buy in warranty then sell. To be fair, mates early D3 and RR sport have had electric problems with big bills. Our old RR is pretty unreliable, nothing much changes.
Just seems unless you've got big bucks, you ain't getting a reliable big truck.
To spend over £10k on something and just get bigger bills when it inevitably breaks would be crap.
They build cars that work for 150k miles plus and trucks that work, why not big 4x4s? X5s are nice, but gearboxes go after 100k
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