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11 November 2012, 22:44
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Country: UK - Wales
Town: N Wales Chester
Boat name: Mr Smith
Make: Humber
Length: 6m +
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Budget £18k max.
Used for:
Towing 6.3 rib 2-4 times a year max, 100mile a pop
Longevity key, to be owned for 8-10 years
Much less than 10k a year for mainly short journeys.
Perhaps for 6 people on short journeys occasionally (110 then)
Currently looking at 06 or 07 D4HSE or 110, sub 60k
I like D4 as comfy, but will it last? Too many electrics, will it age and lose money more?
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11 November 2012, 22:49
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Wakefield
Boat name: Bouncer
Make: Redbay Stormforce
Length: 6m +
Engine: 2x Honda 100 Hp
MMSI: 235025718
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On that budget 110 utility don't think you will get a D4 at that money
How many passengers
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11 November 2012, 22:51
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Mighty Penryn
Boat name: Little Joe.
Make: Avon Searider
Length: 4m +
Engine: Honda BF50
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 8,872
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Originally Posted by HUMBER P4VWL
Budget £18k max.
Currently looking at 06 or 07 D4HSE or 110, sub 60k
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That'll be a D3 then. D4 introduced 09/10.
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11 November 2012, 22:52
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Wakefield
Boat name: Bouncer
Make: Redbay Stormforce
Length: 6m +
Engine: 2x Honda 100 Hp
MMSI: 235025718
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11 November 2012, 22:56
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Bucks
Boat name: Blue & Ding Dong
Make: Ribeye,SR4 & Bombard
Length: 6m +
Engine: 115,50 & 15Hp Yams
Join Date: Feb 2004
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I sold my 05 D3 this Sumer with 75k SE for £12k so I would agree for 18k you will be looking at a D3 not a D4!
I dad mine for 7.5 years great car loved it never let me down, liked it so much I had to have anther so got the D4 HSE they just do everything I want and do it very well.
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11 November 2012, 23:00
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: N Wales Chester
Boat name: Mr Smith
Make: Humber
Length: 6m +
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mick
On that budget 110 utility don't think you will get a D4 at that money
How many passengers
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Ooops! Sorry. Meant D3. Yep, 09/10 too expensive. (Not very up on LRs at all. Always been cars)
Is the D3 any good? The real old Discos look like rust buckets! What is better about the D4?
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11 November 2012, 23:04
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Nice! If a little Gangsta Mick
It'll normally be 2 up, but occasionally 6. It'll be the old mans run about, transporting mowers/ladders or tools on the odd occasion. Plus taking boat each season, brothers caravan there and back each year and occasional (very occasional) 3 generation family days (6).
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11 November 2012, 23:09
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Bucks
Boat name: Blue & Ding Dong
Make: Ribeye,SR4 & Bombard
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My D3 after 7+ years showed no Singh of rust and would clean up like new!
My D4 has 3lt engine the D3 had 2.7 with a 6 speed gear box D4 has a 8 speed which is so nice just more refined not saying the D3 was a bad drive just it has got better & better MPG too.
It has also gone very Range Rover in side, up market less utilitarian than B4.
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11 November 2012, 23:15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nick Hearne
My D3 after 7+ years showed no Singh of rust and would clean up like new!
My D4 has 3lt engine the D3 had 2.7 with a 6 speed gear box D4 has a 8 speed which is so nice just more refined not saying the D3 was a bad drive just it has got better & better MPG too.
It has also gone very Range Rover in side, up market less utilitarian than B4.
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With our low mileage the mpg and less gears, smaller engine aren't an issue really. Mate's wife has one and its nice enough inside. Any reliability problems?
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11 November 2012, 23:17
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Wakefield
Boat name: Bouncer
Make: Redbay Stormforce
Length: 6m +
Engine: 2x Honda 100 Hp
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Just pulled that pick off the net D3 are brill but D4 are loads better you have to drive both to appreciate it the 110 would be better as a throw your stuff in the back work horse but that is what they are although mine has heated seats screen and air con does 28 mpg and can seat 5
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12 November 2012, 05:00
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Country: UK - England
Town: Sheepy Parva
Boat name: Sadly Sold
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Posts: 1,731
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nick Hearne
D4 has a 8 speed which is so nice
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D4 only went 8spd at 2012 model year so any D4 older than just over 12 months will be 6 spd.
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12 November 2012, 07:38
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Bucks
Boat name: Blue & Ding Dong
Make: Ribeye,SR4 & Bombard
Length: 6m +
Engine: 115,50 & 15Hp Yams
Join Date: Feb 2004
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HUMBER P4VWL
With our low mileage the mpg and less gears, smaller engine aren't an issue really. Mate's wife has one and its nice enough inside. Any reliability problems?
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For the money I would look for a good D3 HSE with good service history they did had problem in the early days main one being compressor which was not up to the job, but these where upgraded & although mine was never a problem was replaced when mine was in for a service with out me asking!
Big money service is at 7 years or 10k as the belts are to be changed.
If you want lower RFL you will have to go for early 06 which is £275 I think?
If you have not already looked then go to Disco3.com but do remember most people only make themselves heard when things go wrong, they are a great car & do everything very well.
It's a executive motorway mile muncher, van, people carrier, tow horse, dose the lot
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12 November 2012, 08:52
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Member
Country: Other
Town: Stanley, Falkland Is
Boat name: Seawolf
Make: Osprey Vipermax 5.8
Length: 5m +
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8 speed? They are truly going mad...
If you are looking for something to keep for 8-10 years I would not in a million years start with a six year old D3. Trust me, I was a LR dealer for 15 years - I still have my D2 for a good reason, and it isn't because I can't afford to replace it.
Lovely cars but something to buy, own for the warranty period plus maybe a year or two, and replace with another one. Designed for that, what happens to them at 15 years old is not part of the design. One we looked after had four turbos in less than 10,000 miles, and the electrics when they get old are going to be a nightmare.
A Defender is an acquired taste which you either acquire or you don't (I have one, I love it, I'd not be without it and neither would I drive it every day if I could avoid it). I don't know if you have ever owned one, but if you haven't, get a long drive first. You may hate it or you may be incurably smitten
The Defender isn't a model of reliability either, but there is nothing much too expensive, it's mostly fairly predictable what goes wrong, and most of it can be fixed at home if you are that way inclined.
Hate to say it but for that sort of ownership period I would be looking at Japanese vehicles.
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12 November 2012, 10:17
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Country: UK - England
Town: Sheepy Parva
Boat name: Sadly Sold
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BogMonster
8 speed? They are truly going mad...
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9 speed coming to a showroom near you :-) soonish
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12 November 2012, 10:52
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Country: UK - England
Town: Wirral & Caernarfon
Boat name: That's Enuff
Make: Revenger & Avon SR4
Length: 7m +
Engine: Honda 150HP & 50HP
Join Date: Jul 2011
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Paul, for the sort of money you are talking and what you want to do with it, I would go for a late model D2, they are very comfortable, eat the miles up, tow like a train and relatively cheap to run. The D3/4 are great, but all that electrics and Landrover will never go together once they are out of warranty, there are enough problems with the Defender electrics! I know where I'd be spending my hard earned dosh, our D2 has done 120K now, still looks good, tows the rib no problem, just make sure you get one with a full service history, there are plenty of good ones about!
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12 November 2012, 11:06
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RIBnet supporter
Country: UK - England
Town: Dinard, Brittany
Boat name: Into the Red
Make: Osprey Vipermax
Length: 7m +
Engine: Evinrude E-tec 250HO
MMSI: 235 076 114
Join Date: Apr 2009
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BogMonster
8 speed? They are truly going mad...
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I suppose you won't see the benefit without any motorway driving but over here the 8th speed results in a very economical and quiet ride. Was in new 3.0L XF on yesterday which has the same ZF 8 speeder. Noticed how quiet it was in comparison to the old 2.7 with a six, and noticed it was doing <1900rpm at 90
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12 November 2012, 12:20
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Hamble
Boat name: Worth the wait
Make: Parker
Length: 7m +
Engine: Outboard
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Try a Defender, a D2 & D3, what you like and can live with is very personal. On any of these vehicles, there is nothing that cant be fixed or replaced. The higher you go up the "food chain", Defender - D2 - D3 - D4 the higher the cost to fix.
Any of these would do what you ask of it and at £18K will get you a nice motor.
If it were me, I would get the best D2 I could find, spend around £8K and keep the rest
Steve
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12 November 2012, 14:00
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Porchfield
Boat name: Katie
Make: Stingher
Length: 10m +
Engine: Verado 350 x 2
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 697
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris Caton
Paul, for the sort of money you are talking and what you want to do with it, I would go for a late model D2, they are very comfortable, eat the miles up, tow like a train and relatively cheap to run. The D3/4 are great, but all that electrics and Landrover will never go together once they are out of warranty, there are enough problems with the Defender electrics! I know where I'd be spending my hard earned dosh, our D2 has done 120K now, still looks good, tows the rib no problem, just make sure you get one with a full service history, there are plenty of good ones about!
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And carefully check the rear chassis, known area for corrosion – other wise nice truck.
I’d also only ever get an auto, hits the mpg a little but fantastic to drive and tow and not forgetting no dual-mass flywheel BS to worry about
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13 November 2012, 00:13
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Member
Country: Other
Town: Stanley, Falkland Is
Boat name: Seawolf
Make: Osprey Vipermax 5.8
Length: 5m +
Engine: Etec 150
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Leapy
9 speed coming to a showroom near you :-) soonish
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And the showroom is where it will be staying
Also a vote for a D2, worth paying over the odds for a really good one. I have a nice 45,000 mile mint V8 auto for the right price
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13 November 2012, 06:45
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Sheepy Parva
Boat name: Sadly Sold
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BogMonster
And the showroom is where it will be staying
Also a vote for a D2, worth paying over the odds for a really good one. I have a nice 45,000 mile mint V8 auto for the right price
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Not sure I'd ever vote for a D2 over a D3 if I had £18k to spend as the OP says
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