"Family car" fuel economy?

[steco1958]

Originally Posted by two stroke mick

I have had the pleasure of two ford mondeos a 1993 and a 2001 modeks. both petrol both very good. I have heard of a lot of problems with the rwd one though, stick with the fwd models

no one where i live would touch a rwd mondeo

I'v had no problems with mine it will also be better on a slipway !!

Plus the cars you mention are 21 and 13 years old now

[HUMBER P4VWL]

Originally Posted by Jizm

Cracking cars just watch those swirl valves.....

....and the particulate filter! The attachment to it was loose on my 320d 184bhp touring sport plus (mouthful). Replaced rather than fixed under warranty but £1700 for a new unit and £350 to fit it if I'd had to pay. Though I don't think they break unless you do short journeys for years.

Oh and two rear run flat tyres done through the lease company were £388........ each!!! (retail at £276 each but effectively bought on finance)

Incredible car, average 49 mpg driving at all speeds, no problems at all in 2 years and 50k, but if they do go wrong, its big £££££

[Searider]

Originally Posted by HUMBER P4VWL

....and the particulate filter! The attachment to it was loose on my 320d 184bhp touring sport plus (mouthful). Replaced rather than fixed under warranty but £1700 for a new unit and £350 to fit it if I'd had to pay. Though I don't think they break unless you do short journeys for years.

Oh and two rear run flat tyres done through the lease company were £388........ each!!! (retail at £276 each but effectively bought on finance)

Incredible car, average 49 mpg driving at all speeds, no problems at all in 2 years and 50k, but if they do go wrong, its big £££££

I don't understand:

Was that over £2k to sort out the DPF,

OR was it

No problems at all in 2 years?

Can't be both surely.

[willk]

Originally Posted by mick

Duno I can only dream of such figures unless he is telling porkies I get 350 m out of 75 L in the Defender

Yer flogging that poor yoke!

I reset the odometer on my 300tdi at refill, as I don't overly trust the lower end of the gauge. At 400 miles I know I need to refuel. Generally that means 60-65 liters to brimfull again. That's very mixed milage, but no driving over 60mph... Funny enough - that is pretty much spot on for her official figures - circa 27mpg

[steco1958]

Originally Posted by willk

Yer flogging that poor yoke!

I reset the odometer on my 300tdi at refill, as I don't overly trust the lower end of the gauge. At 400 miles I know I need to refuel. Generally that means 60-65 liters to brimfull again. That's very mixed milage, but no driving over 60mph... Funny enough - that is pretty much spot on for her official figures - circa 27mpg

That is what I got with my Disco also !!

[mick]

Originally Posted by willk

Yer flogging that poor yoke!

I reset the odometer on my 300tdi at refill, as I don't overly trust the lower end of the gauge. At 400 miles I know I need to refuel. Generally that means 60-65 liters to brimfull again. That's very mixed milage, but no driving over 60mph... Funny enough - that is pretty much spot on for her official figures - circa 27mpg

It's my feet there a bit big for the pedals

[HUMBER P4VWL]

Originally Posted by Searider

I don't understand:

Was that over £2k to sort out the DPF,

OR was it

No problems at all in 2 years?

Can't be both surely.

Kind of.

It wasn't mechanical failure, I think I'd banged it on a curb and damaged the attachment to the exhaust. Dealer said they couldn't understand why the bracket had failed so replaced it. but I was using its replacement to illustrate that if the unit failed, the bill would be big.

[9D280]

Curveball:

There is a profuson of grey Mondeos out there at the moment...... Found a 1.8 TDCI. (didn't even know they made them as a 1.8 oil burner!!!)

Anyhow, price is good, toys all present & correct, and the paperwork implies the same torque and a mere 10 less HP than my current lump. (i think I detect an electronic "gearbox protecting" power cap) - and it weighs as good as the same as my current.

Allegedly runs on air according to the official figures. (if true I can put up with loosing a few gee gees)


Anyone had a hire car or own one and got some real world data?

[cptsideways]

75% of getting good mpg's is down to how you drive, the other 25% is down to how easily some cars can driven economically.

Most cars struggle to get anywhere near the quoted "lab test" figures, its usually 60-70% of them, a few however can achieve them quite easily. VAG diesels seem to be quite easy for example.

However if you want cheap motoring you have to buy reliable cars & there are very few of those about these days especially those that are 4-8 years old. There are so many complications that could write a car off with one failure.

[chris.moody]

Originally Posted by cptsideways

However if you want cheap motoring you have to buy reliable cars & there are very few of those about these days especially those that are 4-8 years old. There are so many complications that could write a car off with one failure.

I agree about high value second hand cars being potentially very expensive. I have also come to the conclusion that you need to run either new cars still under warranty or old cars that can be scrapped if a major expensive fault occurs.

[steco1958]

Originally Posted by 9D280

Curveball:

There is a profuson of grey Mondeos out there at the moment...... Found a 1.8 TDCI. (didn't even know they made them as a 1.8 oil burner!!!)

Anyhow, price is good, toys all present & correct, and the paperwork implies the same torque and a mere 10 less HP than my current lump. (i think I detect an electronic "gearbox protecting" power cap) - and it weighs as good as the same as my current.

Allegedly runs on air according to the official figures. (if true I can put up with loosing a few gee gees)


Anyone had a hire car or own one and got some real world data?

I have this model, on a run, with cruise control on at sensible speeds, you can achieve 45 - 48 mpg, round town about 25 mpg, combination is about 30 - 35 mpg.

Steve

[peterwhite]

I had a vectra 2001 model which I bought in 03 with 15k miles on it. Just sold it last November with 234k miles on it. Best car I've ever owned. Was a 2.0dti and regardless of how you drove it it got 48mpg. Local guy who bought it is still driving it. Never once let me down and other than brakes tyres and general servicing not done anything to it. Did loads of towing with it and was brilliant longest run was 1300 miles at 39 mpg average with a 17ft bayliner. Got an astra estate now 2010 with the 150hp 1.9cdti. Had one egr valve at 50k and now got 128k on it no other probs either.