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Old 10 October 2013, 19:09   #1
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Help with repairing sump.

I have some scabs underneath the sump on my terrano and I am loosing quite a bit of oil, I have priced one up from Nissan and its ££££'s also it will be a big job to fit because one side of the axle will have to be moved.

Is there some sort of metal filler I could use and if so which make or brand would be best thanks.
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Old 10 October 2013, 19:26   #2
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I had some success with the stuff that patches petrol tanks. Depends how clean you can get it !
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Have you ever used JB Weld? It might work.
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Old 10 October 2013, 20:39   #4
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I have some scabs underneath the sump on my terrano and I am loosing quite a bit of oil
I should get her "seen to" mate. Sounds like she's been slippin' out at night and sh@ggin' Landys
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I have some scabs underneath the sump on my terrano and I am loosing quite a bit of oil, I have priced one up from Nissan and its ££££'s also it will be a big job to fit because one side of the axle will have to be moved.

Is there some sort of metal filler I could use and if so which make or brand would be best thanks.
According to Honest John its a 4.5 hour job, remove diff/axle/carrier.

No experience of JB Weld, but have used Chemical Metal on an old Yammie petrol tank which lasted for a few years.
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+1 for chemical metal, I've used it to repair a suzi motorbike gearbox casing which held good, but I've not seen this stuff in the shops for a while, might be worth calling a few scrappiies.


Failing that mix some wood shavings with STP, that'll clog the crack from the inside
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JB weld will probably work. It's better than Chemical Metal- but you need to get it as clean as you would clean Hypalon for a tube patch and have abraded bare metal for it to attach to. Aluminium Oxide paper will do it.
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hmmmmm ................. think you will need to drain the oil out n keep cleaning it off till no more creeps through before anything will get a chance to get a good grip...... good luck with that one Kerny
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Run the car to temperature then pull the sump plug. Only trouble with blisters on the sump is potentially how big the hole can be. Try a wire brush head attachment on a drill to take worst off, then down to oxide paper to key. Also look at repainting sump afterwards, using zinc primer.

I'd try the JB stuff. Just watched a youtube promo.
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Personally I would stump up the cash and get it done.
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I should get her "seen to" mate. Sounds like she's been slippin' out at night and sh@ggin' Landys
I guess thats were the rot set in ... the slag
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JB weld will probably work. It's better than Chemical Metal- but you need to get it as clean as you would clean Hypalon for a tube patch and have abraded bare metal for it to attach to. Aluminium Oxide paper will do it.
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Run the car to temperature then pull the sump plug. Only trouble with blisters on the sump is potentially how big the hole can be. Try a wire brush head attachment on a drill to take worst off, then down to oxide paper to key. Also look at repainting sump afterwards, using zinc primer.

I'd try the JB stuff. Just watched a youtube promo.
Thanks I will give it a go.



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Personally I would stump up the cash and get it done.
I agree with you but I think that it is worth a try with JB weld first and if it doesn't work then new sump it is .... cos I love my motor

Thanks very much for your input guys
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Hi mate you sould get a new mechanic key made a new sump for is mates offroader and we can weld up f in land rovers day in and out repairing a sump would be no prob next time your call in i will look at it mate
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I've welded a few in situ in the past not difficult if you have access just drop the oil & put the plug back in then you don't light up the residue as there's no oxygen to burn

worth a try if the car isn't worth much Id expect the chemical metals to let go after a while even if you can get them to seal initially due to the expansion & contraction going on
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So far so good
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...worth a try if the car isn't worth much
It's a Terrano, how much can it be worth
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Hi mate its kerny and i would say around a tener lol
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Hi mate its kerny and i would say around a tener lol
That's what he'd have to pay the scrap man to take it way
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Old 29 October 2013, 23:28   #19
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Hi mate its kerny and i would say around a tener lol
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That's what he'd have to pay the scrap man to take it way
Bring yer tools with you on the Ullswater trip Shaw, there will be plenty LR'S there, it will more than pay for your weekend mate
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