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10 October 2013, 19:09
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Help with repairing sump.
I have some scabs underneath the sump on my terrano and I am loosing quite a bit of oil, I have priced one up from Nissan and its ££££'s also it will be a big job to fit because one side of the axle will have to be moved.
Is there some sort of metal filler I could use and if so which make or brand would be best thanks.
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10 October 2013, 19:26
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I had some success with the stuff that patches petrol tanks. Depends how clean you can get it !
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10 October 2013, 20:05
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Possible solution
Have you ever used JB Weld? It might work.
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10 October 2013, 20:39
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Originally Posted by kerny
I have some scabs underneath the sump on my terrano and I am loosing quite a bit of oil
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I should get her "seen to" mate. Sounds like she's been slippin' out at night and sh@ggin' Landys
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10 October 2013, 20:46
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Originally Posted by kerny
I have some scabs underneath the sump on my terrano and I am loosing quite a bit of oil, I have priced one up from Nissan and its ££££'s also it will be a big job to fit because one side of the axle will have to be moved.
Is there some sort of metal filler I could use and if so which make or brand would be best thanks.
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According to Honest John its a 4.5 hour job, remove diff/axle/carrier.
No experience of JB Weld, but have used Chemical Metal on an old Yammie petrol tank which lasted for a few years.
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10 October 2013, 21:28
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+1 for chemical metal, I've used it to repair a suzi motorbike gearbox casing which held good, but I've not seen this stuff in the shops for a while, might be worth calling a few scrappiies.
Failing that mix some wood shavings with STP, that'll clog the crack from the inside
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10 October 2013, 21:30
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JB weld will probably work. It's better than Chemical Metal- but you need to get it as clean as you would clean Hypalon for a tube patch and have abraded bare metal for it to attach to. Aluminium Oxide paper will do it.
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10 October 2013, 21:56
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hmmmmm ................. think you will need to drain the oil out n keep cleaning it off till no more creeps through before anything will get a chance to get a good grip...... good luck with that one Kerny
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10 October 2013, 22:03
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Run the car to temperature then pull the sump plug. Only trouble with blisters on the sump is potentially how big the hole can be. Try a wire brush head attachment on a drill to take worst off, then down to oxide paper to key. Also look at repainting sump afterwards, using zinc primer.
I'd try the JB stuff. Just watched a youtube promo.
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10 October 2013, 22:26
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Personally I would stump up the cash and get it done.
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10 October 2013, 23:51
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Originally Posted by willk
I should get her "seen to" mate. Sounds like she's been slippin' out at night and sh@ggin' Landys
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I guess thats were the rot set in ... the slag
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11 October 2013, 00:01
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Originally Posted by Nos4r2
JB weld will probably work. It's better than Chemical Metal- but you need to get it as clean as you would clean Hypalon for a tube patch and have abraded bare metal for it to attach to. Aluminium Oxide paper will do it.
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Originally Posted by spartacus
Run the car to temperature then pull the sump plug. Only trouble with blisters on the sump is potentially how big the hole can be. Try a wire brush head attachment on a drill to take worst off, then down to oxide paper to key. Also look at repainting sump afterwards, using zinc primer.
I'd try the JB stuff. Just watched a youtube promo.
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Thanks I will give it a go.
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Originally Posted by A1an
Personally I would stump up the cash and get it done.
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I agree with you but I think that it is worth a try with JB weld first and if it doesn't work then new sump it is .... cos I love my motor
Thanks very much for your input guys
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14 October 2013, 22:21
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Hi mate you sould get a new mechanic key made a new sump for is mates offroader and we can weld up f in land rovers day in and out repairing a sump would be no prob next time your call in i will look at it mate
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14 October 2013, 23:19
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I've welded a few in situ in the past not difficult if you have access just drop the oil & put the plug back in then you don't light up the residue as there's no oxygen to burn
worth a try if the car isn't worth much Id expect the chemical metals to let go after a while even if you can get them to seal initially due to the expansion & contraction going on
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17 October 2013, 08:33
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So far so good
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17 October 2013, 10:04
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...worth a try if the car isn't worth much
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It's a Terrano, how much can it be worth
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17 October 2013, 10:43
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Hi mate its kerny and i would say around a tener lol
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29 October 2013, 23:20
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Hi mate its kerny and i would say around a tener lol
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That's what he'd have to pay the scrap man to take it way
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29 October 2013, 23:28
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Hi mate its kerny and i would say around a tener lol
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That's what he'd have to pay the scrap man to take it way
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Bring yer tools with you on the Ullswater trip Shaw, there will be plenty LR'S there, it will more than pay for your weekend mate
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15 December 2013, 16:35
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'Honest Johns' real name is Peter and he hangs around with the real car dealers at car auctions, he's a journalist not a dealer, I used to see him at BCA Blackbushe all the time but never seen him buy anything except tea.
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