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24 October 2010, 12:46
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Country: UK - England
Town: Northumberland
Boat name: Dr Doof
Make: Humber
Length: 6m +
Engine: Mercury 125hp
MMSI: 235082981
Join Date: Oct 2010
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I've had my last two TD5s re mapped, fitted silicone hoses, changed air filter and fitted bigger intercoolers.
Last one was done by Twisted Performance in Thirsk. The difference is amazing. More torque, more power all round, fewer gear changes needed and better fuel economy.
Would definitely recommend having them remapped as long as you use a respected diesel engine tuner like Twisted or IRB.
Twisted fitted the remap, hoses, filter and larger intercooler to my TDCi as well. Same kind of improvements with power, economy and fewer gear changes but doesn't feel as improved as the TD5 did.
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24 October 2010, 12:56
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Country: UK - England
Town: Mighty Penryn
Boat name: Little Joe.
Make: Avon Searider
Length: 4m +
Engine: Honda BF50
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 8,872
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Originally Posted by Dr Doof
I've had my last two TD5s re mapped, fitted silicone hoses, changed air filter and fitted bigger intercoolers.
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What kind of money did they want for this, may I ask?
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24 October 2010, 13:08
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Northumberland
Boat name: Dr Doof
Make: Humber
Length: 6m +
Engine: Mercury 125hp
MMSI: 235082981
Join Date: Oct 2010
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Twisted Performance remap is around £400, silicone hoses £65 and intercooler around £550.
Not sure about IRB prices. Might also be worth speaking to Allisport.
I cover high miles so the savings in fuel pay for the upgrades.
You can also get a exhaust gas removal kit for TD5s, think there about £25.
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24 October 2010, 13:15
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Country: UK - England
Town: Mighty Penryn
Boat name: Little Joe.
Make: Avon Searider
Length: 4m +
Engine: Honda BF50
Join Date: Aug 2005
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Originally Posted by Dr Doof
You can also get a exhaust gas removal kit for TD5s, think there about £25.
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My work pal also reckoned, that removing the EGR valve on his TD5 did'nt do much. I've removed both on our TDV6 which again, did nothing for the performance, but meant that they didn't require replacing every 2 yrs @ £200 a side. Apparently, they're Peugeot items which weren't designed to run on their sides, the moisture can't escape. Laterly, they've been modified.
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24 October 2010, 13:38
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Northumberland
Boat name: Dr Doof
Make: Humber
Length: 6m +
Engine: Mercury 125hp
MMSI: 235082981
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 297
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I removed mine when the remap, hoses and intercooler were fitted so difficult to say if it made any difference.
My friend had his TD5 remapped from a LR specialist but he had problems with over fuelling, it ended up being worse on fuel as well.
Would definitely recommend using one of the specialist diesel tuners rather than Land Rover specialist.
Twisted, IRB and Allisport all have good reputations.
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24 October 2010, 15:44
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Country: UK - England
Town: Cornwall
Length: no boat
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 1,518
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Originally Posted by Mollers
My work pal also reckoned, that removing the EGR valve on his TD5 did'nt do much. I've removed both on our TDV6 which again, did nothing for the performance, but meant that they didn't require replacing every 2 yrs @ £200 a side. Apparently, they're Peugeot items which weren't designed to run on their sides, the moisture can't escape. Laterly, they've been modified.
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Blanked off the EGR's in the TDV6 last week, we bought it in 04 and have done 60k with no apparent egr failures, was hoping that the mpg would rise significantly but alas not, it may be running smoother and I think with a tad more power but too close to say for sure, still, replacement bills avoided hopefully.
Aldo did the 300 tdi which has over 200k on the clock, that definately made a difference, more punch in the midrange and now holding gears for longer. Loads of wet sooty gunk to be found in the pipework, can't be good.
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24 October 2010, 16:10
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Mighty Penryn
Boat name: Little Joe.
Make: Avon Searider
Length: 4m +
Engine: Honda BF50
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 8,872
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Originally Posted by Kernow
Blanked off the EGR's in the TDV6 last week, we bought it in 04 and have done 60k with no apparent egr failures,
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I had one, intermittently sticking. It ran like a sack of crap when stuck shut. Keep an eye on tyre pressures for mpg Kerns. Keep 'em on loaded pressures this time of year. One soggy tyre drags the mpg back quite a bit.
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24 October 2010, 23:22
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Country: UK - England
Town: Gloucestershire
Boat name: Osprey
Make: Osprey Vipermax
Length: 5m +
Engine: E-tec 300 G2
MMSI: TBC
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 4,021
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Originally Posted by BogMonster
How old's your TD5 Chris?
99-01 model need a plug in chip, 02- models have a flash ECU and can just have a software remap which is dead easy. Having said that I have seen a few tweaked ones here and they usually seem to be the ones with problems so not really sure myself. Look at getting a bigger intercooler if you do.
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Its a Y Reg, so 2001, the guys at TF's suggested a remap so presumably it is the later ECU. Apparently they download the existing map send it off to the remapping co. then get it sent back (presumably via email) and re upload it.
Chris
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24 October 2010, 23:54
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Northumberland
Boat name: Dr Doof
Make: Humber
Length: 6m +
Engine: Mercury 125hp
MMSI: 235082981
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 297
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Unless its a 2002 model year it won't have the modern ECU. I've seen the older units being remapped but wouldn't recommend it.
They have to take the ECU box from under the seat and solder something, it didn't look very sophisticated when they did it and the black smoke from the exhaust when it was re fitted was terrible.
It did increase power but fuel economy suffered.
Might be worth speaking to one of the specialist tuners before committing to anything.
Twisted Performance number is 01845 574990 ask for Charlie or John, both have been really helpful with me in the past.
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25 October 2010, 00:49
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Country: Other
Town: Stanley, Falkland Is
Boat name: Seawolf
Make: Osprey Vipermax 5.8
Length: 5m +
Engine: Etec 150
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 3,726
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Originally Posted by Chris
Its a Y Reg, so 2001, the guys at TF's suggested a remap so presumably it is the later ECU. Apparently they download the existing map send it off to the remapping co. then get it sent back (presumably via email) and re upload it.
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It's the model year that matters - if your vin ends in 1Axxxxxx then it is 2001, if it is 2Axxxxxx then 2002.
Having said that the early ECUs are now no longer available and any replacements now are just a late ECU with an early map stuffed in it so nothing is certain
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