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Old 08 September 2005, 16:40   #61
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Old 08 September 2005, 16:42   #62
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Why oh why do you not check the FACTS????

The first A380s use RR Trents and many have been ordered!!!

Selected by five out of eight operators who have so far made engine
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Singapore Airlines (10 firm + 15 options)
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Total: 80 aircraft (320 installed engines)

A bit out of date codders....

"Either the Rolls-Royce Trent 900 or Engine Alliance GP7200 turbofan engines may power the A380. The Rolls-Royce Trent, the launch engine, initially gained most sales. However, the Engine Alliance GP7201 sales grew, now roughly matching those of the Trent 900."

Do the same sums on the 300/320/330 and yiou will see that GE go way pass RR.

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Why not use a human being???.........
I suspect that their thinking was that you don’t get too many people flying into planes while airbourne Des
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A bit out of date codders....

"Either the Rolls-Royce Trent 900 or Engine Alliance GP7200 turbofan engines may power the A380. The Rolls-Royce Trent, the launch engine, initially gained most sales. However, the Engine Alliance GP7201 sales grew, now roughly matching those of the Trent 900."

Do the same sums on the 300/320/330 and yiou will see that GE go way pass RR.

Jonathan

Yes they are now 50 - 50 - but you are just looking at Airbus!!

In 2004 (latest figures) RR had 40% - GE 34% - with other joint efforts taking up the rest.

Hardly RR losing the way!!!
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Yes they are now 50 - 50 - but you are just looking at Airbus!!

but there aint much else in the airports at the moment..757's seem to have stopped, 767- long haul and mostly GE, 777 only seen one so far ( El Al) and I believe that was GE?? . There is a dearth of 737's and I believe there aint a RR on any of them?? - but need to be corrected???, everything i end up flying in is either GE or Pratt & Witney. 747's seem to be giving over to Airbus on transatlantic. I leave myself open to be corrected -

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"Consider the behemoths that power Boeing's big 777, which the Guinness Book of Records certifies as the most powerful commercial jet engine ever built. According to Guinness, General Electric's GE90-115B generated 123,000 pounds of steady-state thrust during its initial ground testing in 2001, a record it would later break."

I regret that RR are not there yet

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"Consider the behemoths that power Boeing's big 777, which the Guinness Book of Records certifies as the most powerful commercial jet engine ever built. According to Guinness, General Electric's GE90-115B generated 123,000 pounds of steady-state thrust during its initial ground testing in 2001, a record it would later break."

I regret that RR are not there yet

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Wonder if you would survive being sucked in to that
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Which is why RR have the biggest market share

That engine is for a very limited market - there wouldn't be room for 2 - I am QUITE sure RR could develop one if they needed to!!!
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Its got nothing to do with Ribs, but just to declare an interest - I worked for RR for 33 years, including a period as its Director-Engine Systems. Codprawn has got the facts right I can assure you...
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... and just to clear up the other myth. The chickens are thawed out, not frozen. The whole point is to simulate a real bird ingestion event. There is an old (true I believe) story of the railway development team in Derby, working on the ATP, who copied RR to test train windscreens. They used a frozen chicken and were then surpised when it went though the windscreen, through the back of the cab and into the engine.
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and just to clear up the other myth. The chickens are thawed out, not frozen

... and I bet theyt ended up in the worker's canteen as "cordon-bleu"- but to be serious for once Nuts, whatever happened to RR Diesel engines??

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The story on RR diesel engines is complicated - there have been several parts of the RR company 'family' that have made diesel engines over the years. Variously they were parts of RR Motors, Northern Engineering Industries, Vickers and Allison that became part of RR through various takeovers. I think all these have been sold off to other corporations over the years. It doesn't answer your specific question, but the following link will give you an overview of RR's history.

http://www.rolls-royce.com/history/timeline/default.jsp

If you really are interested in the detail, there is a three-volume book set called "The Magic of the Name - The Rolls-Royce Story" published by Icon Books.
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The story on RR diesel engines is complicated - there have been several parts of the RR company 'family' that have made diesel engines over the years. Variously they were parts of RR Motors, Northern Engineering Industries, Vickers and

thanks Nuts..I am really interested.... - as it just seems a shame that we dont hear about them anymore--- perkins, petters ect .. they have all 'gone'
BUT i think there will be a come back.... as we are now looking for quality and not price...

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Wonder if you would survive being sucked in to that
why dont we get Rob Jones to try it??????????

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Its got nothing to do with Ribs, but just to declare an interest - I worked for RR for 33 years, including a period as its Director-Engine Systems. Codprawn has got the facts right I can assure you...
WOW - if I had a hat I would take it off to you!!!!

You would well remember the time a British Airways 747 with RR engines flew through dense volcanic ash near Indonesia then??? How the hell those engines ever started up again I will never know - I saw the aircraft afterwards - looked like it had been grit blasted - which it had basically!!!

Was only a kid at the time but well impressed!!!

Always been facinated by engineering and they dont come much better than Rolls Royce - unless you look at a Bristol Centaurus
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Always been facinated by engineering and they dont come much better than Rolls Royce - unless you look at a Bristol Centaurus

I do bow down to a superior being...... but one thing you and your new found RR friend did'nt come back on .. and that was the fact that RR actually went into receivership in 1972... care to explain why????

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I think's what they call schadenfreude...
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Well said!!!!!!!!
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WOW - if I had a hat I would take it off to you!!!!

You would well remember the time a British Airways 747 with RR engines flew through dense volcanic ash near Indonesia then??? How the hell those engines ever started up again I will never know - I saw the aircraft afterwards - looked like it had been grit blasted - which it had basically!!!

Was only a kid at the time but well impressed!!!

Always been facinated by engineering and they dont come much better than Rolls Royce - unless you look at a Bristol Centaurus
well with aircraft engines, one of the ways to clean them is by doing a grit wash by putting a special type of abbrasive down the intake, so, i suspect that 747 had super clean engines unless it was a very severe gritwash.

was an aircraft engineer in the raf for 10 years so know a bit myself.
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