Land Rover oil problems

[Jono]

Well… I’ve owned and driven lots of them, except the “luxury spec ones”… Shogun, Landcruiser (although mine only had 7 seats from memory..must have misplaced one somewhere.. ) Patrol, L200, Blazer, Navara, Freelander, Disco, RR, LRs…of all shapes’n sizes…. Suzuki SJ… yes I know what I looked like in that …Explorer, RAV… it is me Moms..OK? … plus a good few more that I'm trying to erase from my memory.. ... and still own a Defender, L200, Explorer and the little Suzuki….
They have ALL had issues one way or another… and for those of you too blinkered to accept that your vehicle may not be perfect then more fool you… but… the vehicle I choose first… is my trusty … Defender. Why ? ‘cause I love it to bits… warts and all…… if you want something completely reliable… buy a Skoda… and live with the lack of character too………..

[gavin]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/1470372.stm

Reliability/ versus Jap 4x4


For comprenhsive reading regarding the multiple Landrover recall issues

http://www.automallusa.net/06/suvs/l...r/recalls.html
Interestingly the recall on 06 Range Rovers which roll away when left in park is mentioned here

[gavin]

I lost this site, although it is very serious.........
cool name for a site

http://www.freelanderheadgasket.co.uk/

[codprawn]

Originally Posted by gavin

I lost this site, although it is very serious.........
cool name for a site

http://www.freelanderheadgasket.co.uk/

Here are a few just for you Gavin

http://www.amnesty.ie/user/content/view/full/5091

http://www.irishhealth.com/index.html?level=4&id=9848

http://www.newstarget.com/013039.html

I hope you get the help you need.......

[eupa]

I hope you get the help you need.......

Codders , that's not very genereous of you/.....The best way is to completley ignore him... The guy obviousely doesn't like Land Rovers in any form,shape, or size. Honestly,do you really give a tinkers cuss? ( is that the expression.. loosing my english )-- or is it "pride"

How's the boat getting on?? - max speed ??.

Jonathan

[hard1]

Have had an Isuzu Bighorn (Trooper) LWB 7 seater (3.1td) for several years, done 100K miles and er, nothing's ever gone wrong with it, ever. But, the newer 3.0 Troopers have been a nightmare with a serious engine design fault resulting out of Isuzu partner GM's involvement with Caterpillar who designed the motor injection system resulting in exploding runaway diesels, as fuel leaks down past the injector seals into the sump. At first Isuzu were in denial (like Landrover), but are now fixing these very expensive motors FOC as long as it can be proved they're not grey imports (if it is - you're pretty much screwed).

We achieved this by forming an owners club and lobbying Isuzu Motors and involving TV and consumer affairs programs. The upshot is that they've decided to stop making a very fine 4X4 as a result and are simply sticking to the pickup with a redesigned motor. Shame it was a good car. (Trooper)

But, the MKI 2.8TD Isuzu motor is very highly prized by LR owners looking for more grunt and a diesel.

As the very jingoistic CP says (calm down boyo or you'll implode), there are problems with just about every other mechanical make, and having worked for the Ford MoCo can testify to the lack of care exercised by the average hourly paid worker in car production. It's only robots that have improved reliability, so It's all down to luck really.

It's how the respective manufacturers deal with these (inevitable)faults and back up their products should sway the decision making process IMHO.

If you want to know which always is the best 4X4 or RIB? It's the ones that you own, of course....

[gavin]

Come on Codds you can do better than that

3544 views so far, the Gospel is spreading
Can you disprove my argument, provide some links which ridicule the facts I have presented

[codprawn]

Originally Posted by gavin

Come on Codds you can do better than that

3544 views so far, the Gospel is spreading
Can you disprove my argument, provide some links which ridicule the facts I have presented

Not even going to bother - can think of a lot better things to do!!!

[Richard B]

Originally Posted by Jono

RAV… it is me Moms..OK?

Yeah, yeah... sure it is/was!

[ADS]

So the question is how many Freelanders have been sold and out of that what percentage have had the head gasket go? I bet Landrover know, and I bet its a statistic that they will do anything to hide!

[eupa]

Here, hold on Alex. Ask the same question on the Chryslers Voyageur before Mercedes put their own engine instead of the VM. No dont bother, I will tell you.... 4 out 5.

Jonathan

[Lostboy]

Don't get me started on Chrysler Voyagers. The Touareg is a replacement for an 02 Grand Voyager that was a complete bag of shit. Feel free to see comments on www.peachorlemon.co.uk and various other sites or PM me for all the details. I cannot stress how badly built it was and how much time it spent off the road (fortunately under warranty as far as costs were concerned!).

[Kernow Buoy]

Originally Posted by gavin

This thread is about Landrover problems, the reason for it is , to highlight the danger and unreliability of them , this being particularly important to us , having boats to tow, and I am hoping by posting the truth, and these various links people will decide for themselves,

Keep the insults coming , it wont deflect from these flawed 4x4 s

Hi Gavin,

Perhaps your right to highlight potential dangers, especially to us boat owners, here's one that could be far worse than a headgasket on a car going, real potential for danger here especially if this were to happen at sea. Rib faults

[gavin]

Yeah thats a nasty one, I wonder did the gluue fail after a while , or was it expansion, either way not the sort of repair you would easily fix

[codprawn]

Originally Posted by gavin

Yeah thats a nasty one, I wonder did the gluue fail after a while , or was it expansion, either way not the sort of repair you would easily fix

So when are you going to start a thread(or tread as some people would say)telling people not to buy Redbays???

[gavin]

Just have a re read of the posting guidelines, your usual personal attacks, impolitness, etc, arnt tolerated, try and keep on the point ,the thread is about, not an attack about the general unrelilability of Landrovers, we are not discussing jap jeeps here, nor are we discussing why Henshaw tubes fitted to a Redbay suffered a cone failure, and what has this to do with telling people not to buy Redbays.
Like keeping to the point ,I welcome the links you have provided to Irish mental health sites, however how this strenghtens your argument about Landrovers being quality 4x4 I fail to see.

As for Internet troll , the sort of comments usually associated with the loss of an argument, isint it time for another anti Irish slur.


I will put it into context once again for you
People can visit the links I have provided, then make their own decisions

The links are credible ones, mostly owners comments and views etc, some from enthausists sites, if it upsets you to read about Landrover faults, then simply dont read them.
I am sure as everyone else is , other 4x4 used for towing boats, have problems too.
If it helps you, then start a thread on this, again what this has to do with Landrovers I fail to see .


I would however had welcomed some links opposing my views, and disproving my claims about Landrover, but we both know that wont be happening on this site......... because you havnt got any to show us

[Hugh Jardon]

we have a td5 and a beemer and i far prefer towing the rib with the beemer especially on a long journey

now the hard boat only gets towed by the landy because of the sheer weight of it and the strain on the suspension.

the landy is fab on slippery slips and ours has been more reliable than some i suspect, tis our third and all have had probs but i fix them myself and is usually cheap and they do hold their value great

i would say the landies are gutless unless you chip em, never driven a chipped one but i hear they are a lot better

[codprawn]

Originally Posted by Hugh Jardon

we have a td5 and a beemer and i far prefer towing the rib with the beemer especially on a long journey

now the hard boat only gets towed by the landy because of the sheer weight of it and the strain on the suspension.

the landy is fab on slippery slips and ours has been more reliable than some i suspect, tis our third and all have had probs but i fix them myself and is usually cheap and they do hold their value great

i would say the landies are gutless unless you chip em, never driven a chipped one but i hear they are a lot better

Well my 300 Tdi was not gutless when towing about the biggest load you can legally get away with. To be honest I was usually trying to keep the speed down on the Motorway.

[Hugh Jardon]

Originally Posted by codprawn

Well my 300 Tdi was not gutless when towing about the biggest load you can legally get away with. To be honest I was usually trying to keep the speed down on the Motorway.

i suspect yours is "special"

i find it tiring when you have to knock down a gear or two, listen to all that noise and slowly plod up hills rather than whistling up effortlessly with a 4.4 v8

[ADS]

Originally Posted by codprawn

Well my 300 Tdi was not gutless when towing about the biggest load you can legally get away with. To be honest I was usually trying to keep the speed down on the Motorway.

17.2 seconds 0-60, thats rapid