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30 October 2012, 12:10
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Country: UK - England
Town: Cambs
Make: Scorpion
Length: 8m +
Engine: 225 Opti
Join Date: Sep 2010
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I had an xc90 and agree its very good for what it is but the space is limited. Four kids including a six three rower of a sixteen year old son who has shoulders like an ox!
Definitely need more space in the next car
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30 October 2012, 12:13
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Member
Country: Australia
Boat name: SEAL
Make: Zodiac Hurricane
Length: 7m +
Engine: Steyr 260Hp
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 82
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I just bought a jeep grand Cherokee diesel, great price, 550 Nm torque and tows my zodiac hurricane really well. It's worth a look!
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30 October 2012, 12:18
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Go with a LR, Toyota or Volvo. All great cars, you just have to decide which one suits you. Also the Nissan pathfinder is well priced but bit cramped in back, still worth a look. Also is a freelancer to small? Because its worth a look
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30 October 2012, 12:53
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Wickford, Essex
Boat name: Wanderer
Make: Ribeye, Zodiac FR
Length: 7m +
Engine: Yamaha F300, 25 2S
MMSI: 235095667
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 219
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Originally Posted by csjukes
Go with a LR, Toyota or Volvo. All great cars, you just have to decide which one suits you. Also the Nissan pathfinder is well priced but bit cramped in back, still worth a look. Also is a freelancer to small? Because its worth a look
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Unfortunately the volvo towing capacity is really poor compared with the rest. As an outside choice, what about the vw toureg? I'm not sure if it will tow the full 3500 though.
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30 October 2012, 14:28
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Cambs
Make: Scorpion
Length: 8m +
Engine: 225 Opti
Join Date: Sep 2010
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Yes.
Love the ouster but need seven seats for sure. Could leave the wife behind and drive a five litre. Sounds fun!
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30 October 2012, 22:51
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Also is the bmw x5 a nono? It's got more grunt than anyone would need, is massive and very good looking. It is a 4x4 and from my experience will deal with day to day life perfectly. Sure it won't take you up a steep mud ridden mountain but I've seen it work well in the snow and it will be a great tow car. Although everyone will hate you!
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30 October 2012, 23:20
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Country: UK - England
Town: LONDON
Make: SR4/ZODIAC/3D
Length: 4m +
Engine: 30T/40T
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 1,433
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Originally Posted by mick
The D4 engine is awesome goes as fast as you dare hardly ever drops out of top gear
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But the gearbox drops out.......I know when one goes tits-up it doesn't mean they all do but my friend's gearbox packed up after 22k replaced under warranty then two weeks later engine seized..........hadn't had a chance to rust yet (yeah right!!)
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30 October 2012, 23:23
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Country: UK - Wales
Town: N Wales Chester
Boat name: Mr Smith
Make: Humber
Length: 6m +
Join Date: Feb 2009
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Go for the merc of you want comfort. The build quality of mercs has rocketed, back to the real old days I quality. It's a discerning choice with real class. BMW if you want to drive like a car and look good. Though if you're off roading or going in the desert then fine, a wallowy Toyota as per UN. Friends with D4s love them, but both they and RR sports seem to always get electrical problems and are in and out of dealers once a few years old.
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30 October 2012, 23:24
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Surrey
Boat name: Fugly & Rokraider 1
Make: Pac 22 & Porter 6.5
Length: 6m +
Engine: Ford 250 & jet,DT140
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 681
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The caravan club have a useful breakdown of quite a few vehicles for towing and it appears to be up to date. Is more car than 4x4 orientated.
Search - The Camping and Caravanning Club
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30 October 2012, 23:50
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Country: UK - England
Town: LONDON
Make: SR4/ZODIAC/3D
Length: 4m +
Engine: 30T/40T
Join Date: Oct 2011
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"The caravan club have a useful breakdown of quite a few vehicles for towing and it appears to be up to date." Rokraider
Total misquote however I believe Land Rover have a useful breakdown of (more than ) quite a few vehicles.
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30 October 2012, 23:56
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Country: UK - England
Town: LONDON
Make: SR4/ZODIAC/3D
Length: 4m +
Engine: 30T/40T
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It's got to be a 3.0 Patrol for £25k. It really has........you'd save some money if you bought a decent Toyota Hilux Surf.......also, then you'd have £20k odd floating around and could commit to being a share holder in a great plan I have to buy Charlestown Harbour. I've just seen a pie up there above that cloud.
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31 October 2012, 09:43
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Salcombe, Devon, UK
Boat name: BananaShark
Make: BananaShark
Length: 10m +
Engine: 2xYanmar 260 diesels
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 4,225
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Originally Posted by ppenman
Unfortunately the volvo towing capacity is really poor compared with the rest. As an outside choice, what about the vw toureg? I'm not sure if it will tow the full 3500 though.
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I can vouch for the VW Touareg - I have the V10 5 litre diesel, it tows 3500kg without thinking about it and does in excess of 20mpg around the Devon lanes. It's comfy and has all of the toys, you can get lower mileage and newer compared to most other options as people are scared of them (for no good reason). Let me know if you want me to find one for you
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Cookee
Originally Posted by Zippy
When a boat looks that good who needs tubes!!!
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31 October 2012, 10:04
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Surrey
Boat name: Fugly & Rokraider 1
Make: Pac 22 & Porter 6.5
Length: 6m +
Engine: Ford 250 & jet,DT140
Join Date: Jun 2008
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I like the Touareg and the V10 is a monster! We prepare VW's off road support vehicles for them and I have always taken a shine to them. We make a demountable winch kit for them, should you want to have a winch option on yours?
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31 October 2012, 11:31
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Country: UK - England
Town: Cambs
Make: Scorpion
Length: 8m +
Engine: 225 Opti
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 356
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Ive seen yours tow up Batson slip Cookee and it made your triple axle trailer look like a toy. my sister has a seven seat x5 and the rear seats really are quite small, way smaller than the gl or LC. My wife is getting stuck on the merc and I think we will look at some of those. You seem to get much more car for your money than an LC and some of the trick bits like electric rear seats are pretty cool for my wife who will usually be carting hoardes of kids around.
It seems the 420 is less popular than the 320 too as they save a couple of grand on purchase price on a like for like car. I guess I will pay it through the pump but the thought of a v8 diesel gives me a semi!!! Im now quite confident i could get a really nice 420 for about £22k with roughly 50k on the clock.
So next tip. Anyone now of any decent non franchise dealers??? It seems Saxton 4x4 get very mixed review but have a lot of stock.
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31 October 2012, 11:34
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Salcombe, Devon, UK
Boat name: BananaShark
Make: BananaShark
Length: 10m +
Engine: 2xYanmar 260 diesels
Join Date: Mar 2003
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Rokraider - no winch required I'm afraid!
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Anyone now of any decent non franchise dealers???
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email me at John@BLSCars.co.uk and I may be able to help!
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Cookee
Originally Posted by Zippy
When a boat looks that good who needs tubes!!!
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31 October 2012, 11:45
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Surrey
Boat name: Fugly & Rokraider 1
Make: Pac 22 & Porter 6.5
Length: 6m +
Engine: Ford 250 & jet,DT140
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 681
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Originally Posted by Portholme
Ive seen yours tow up Batson slip Cookee and it made your triple axle trailer look like a toy. my sister has a seven seat x5 and the rear seats really are quite small, way smaller than the gl or LC. My wife is getting stuck on the merc and I think we will look at some of those. You seem to get much more car for your money than an LC and some of the trick bits like electric rear seats are pretty cool for my wife who will usually be carting hoardes of kids around.
It seems the 420 is less popular than the 320 too as they save a couple of grand on purchase price on a like for like car. I guess I will pay it through the pump but the thought of a v8 diesel gives me a semi!!! Im now quite confident i could get a really nice 420 for about £22k with roughly 50k on the clock.
So next tip. Anyone now of any decent non franchise dealers??? It seems Saxton 4x4 get very mixed review but have a lot of stock.
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My Company are 4x4 specialists, but we do not get involved with selling vehicles. We custom build, prep for Factories and MOD, expeditions, rallies etc. we also do everyday servicing and maintenance. We see lots of crap supposedly sold by respectable dealers etc. There are a lot of pikey dealers out there flogging off crap that shouldn't even be on the road, so my advice is to get the vehicle inspected by an independent specialist or at least the AA, RAC before parting with your cash.
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31 October 2012, 14:28
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Salcombe, Devon, UK
Boat name: BananaShark
Make: BananaShark
Length: 10m +
Engine: 2xYanmar 260 diesels
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 4,225
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Originally Posted by Rokraider
My Company are 4x4 specialists, but we do not get involved with selling vehicles. We custom build, prep for Factories and MOD, expeditions, rallies etc. we also do everyday servicing and maintenance. We see lots of crap supposedly sold by respectable dealers etc. There are a lot of pikey dealers out there flogging off crap that shouldn't even be on the road, so my advice is to get the vehicle inspected by an independent specialist or at least the AA, RAC before parting with your cash.
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I would add that a respectable dealer will offer a warranty backed by a national reputable company and not mind a third party inspection - just like a survey on a boat really.
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Cookee
Originally Posted by Zippy
When a boat looks that good who needs tubes!!!
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31 October 2012, 17:14
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#38
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Surrey
Boat name: Fugly & Rokraider 1
Make: Pac 22 & Porter 6.5
Length: 6m +
Engine: Ford 250 & jet,DT140
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 681
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Some of the warranties offered need a close inspection. Often they only cover things that actually break / fail, rather than wear. We have had several pissed off customers who have had problems they expected to be covered by the warranty, only to find it wasn't.
A vehicle bought from a main dealer with a factory warranty ought to be a reasonably safe bet. However, some of the main dealers can have a pretty poor reputation. Best bet is to buy through recommendation or referral.
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31 October 2012, 18:40
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Sticks, N.Yorks
Boat name: Tamanco
Make: Honwave 3.5AE
Length: 3m +
Engine: Tohatsu Outboard
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 1,176
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Mate of mine near Harrogate bought a brand new car from a dealership in Leeds for his wife with a 6 year warranty. Even had a sticker on the rear window stating 6 years parts & labour warranty. 2000 miles the car became difficult through the gears so she took it in and was told it was the way she drove it & the flywheel was damaged. Cost him £2700 to get the car back !!!!
Some warranty !! All down to the dealers, I have a Merc & some of their dealerships are shocking. Try get a reccomendation off somebody you know !
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31 October 2012, 19:12
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: N. Pembrokeshire
Boat name: Various
Make: RIBs & Hovercraft
Length: 9m +
Engine: Outboards
MMSI: Various
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 1,358
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Slight threadd-drift, but sort of on topic..... One for John really....how /are warranties affected if the vehicle is used 'off road' (is slipway is classed as off-road)?
I think I remember reading a thread on here a few years ago re a RR Sport and bent chassis(?) which LR refused to pay out on as he'd used it off road lny aunching a boat on a slip.....or similar....
I've considered /been looking at new tow vehicles, but had come (perhaps incorrectly) to the conclusiion that insurance /warranties etc would be affected by our use.....whilst not desirable, if one of the Grand Cherokees got stuck /covered by an incoming tide it wouldn't be the end of the world from a financial POV.... just curious really
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