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03 August 2007, 14:33
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: London
Boat name: Badger
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 6m +
Engine: Outboard
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 2
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Towcar advice.
Hi guys,
First off I'm quite new to ribnet so hello to everyone!
I'm looking for some advice regarding purchasing a 2nd hand car to tow a 6.5m rib. The MAM of the trailer is 1.5tonnes (the metric ones, I hope i got the right spelling).
I'm not too bothered how great it tows on normal roads I'm more concerned about ability to recover from a fairly straightforward slipway.
A second priority would be a fairly good fuel economy for non towing driving.
I hope to spend something in the region of 7-8k (as I said 2nd hand) and was wondering what advice anyone could give me.
Many thanks.
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03 August 2007, 15:14
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Member
Country: Netherlands
Town: Nijmegen
Boat name: TECA ONE
Make: N/A
Length: 8m +
Engine: outboards
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 9
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Toyota Land Cruiser - Toyota Hilux - Mitsubishi Pajero (known as "Shogun" in the UK I believe...?) - all great towing cars!
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03 August 2007, 16:00
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Mudeford
Make: Humber Ocean Pro 5.3
Length: 5m +
Engine: 90ho Tohatsu
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 137
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Mitsibitshi L200 pickup. You can get a very tidy one for 8k. really handy for having the pickup part of it as well to chuck all your wet crap , trailor board , wheel clamp, jerry cans of fuel, oil, dogs in with out destroying the interior of the vehicle. Plus has high and low ratio 4WD, locking diffs etc to get you out of trouble.
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03 August 2007, 18:23
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Member
Country: Netherlands
Town: Nijmegen
Boat name: TECA ONE
Make: N/A
Length: 8m +
Engine: outboards
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 9
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Mitsubishi L200 vs. Toyota Hilux = L200 not nearly as stiff as Hilux, both very strong and long lasting work horses...
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03 August 2007, 18:25
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Wilmslow
Boat name: Serotonin
Make: Quicksilver
Length: 3m +
Engine: Mariner 15
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 712
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is 1500 kg the trailer capacity or does outfit actually weigh that much if it does then you really need a vehicle that weighs about 2000kg so you're into 4X4 territory Ideally the towed outfit should weigh approx 75% of the car personally I would go for a bmw 320 or 520 diesel ( trailer weight permitting) both rear wheel drive and enough torque to do pull up most slipways but no good off the beach + you get 40 - 50 mpg solo. There's no doubt the 4X4s are better tow cars but how much time do you spend towing?
And before Codprawn starts I'd love a Disco, but do i want to live with one everyday of the week? yes please Incidentally I have been offered a T reg grand Cherokee 4.7 V8 petrol has anyone any views on this?
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03 August 2007, 18:44
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: swansea
Boat name: Too Blue
Make: BLANK
Length: 8m +
Engine: Suzuki DT225
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 12,791
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Welcome Badgers - reminds me of my ringtone
http://www.weebls-stuff.com/toons/badgers/
Why pay £8k? For that money you could get a Land Rover which will tow 3500kgs and a decent diesel saloon - best of both worlds?
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03 August 2007, 18:56
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Country: Other
Town: East Coast
Make: Chaudron 33
Length: 6m +
Engine: Black uns
MMSI: dunno wot this iz
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 161
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Does it all depend on how steep the slipway is or if you get at light green seaweed growing on it,
I had the L200 2.5 Diesel ok but very poor on the fuel, The 3.2 DID engine i have found better on fuel,My friend Has the 3.0 Diesel toyota manual gears it does around 28-32 mpg you get the same as the uk one ( prada) at good prices.
It all depends on the gearing you need to get out the slipway, you may want to consider if the slipway is not steep, recovery of the boat, in a car may require dipping the back of the car in the water to get the boat back on.
In the past if this is happening is to get a scaffold pole, hitch on one end ball on the other this give you another 12 ft or so not getting the car in the water.
The pole then can then be put on the bed of the trailer for travelling.
I've been in your position many times over the years!!
The wife wants a nice car but Dad wants the boat in and out the water.
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06 August 2007, 09:47
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Mudeford
Make: Humber Ocean Pro 5.3
Length: 5m +
Engine: 90ho Tohatsu
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 137
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fred bolton
I have been offered a T reg grand Cherokee 4.7 V8 petrol has anyone any views on this?
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I borrowed one for a weekend a while ago, they are very very expensive to run. Everytime you even look at the throttle it will cost you a fiver.
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06 August 2007, 13:28
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: swansea
Boat name: Too Blue
Make: BLANK
Length: 8m +
Engine: Suzuki DT225
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 12,791
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Originally Posted by psychopic
I borrowed one for a weekend a while ago, they are very very expensive to run. Everytime you even look at the throttle it will cost you a fiver.
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The electrics also leave a lot to be desired and the build quality is crap!!!
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06 August 2007, 18:29
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Member
Country: Belgium
Town: NIVELLES BELGIUM
Boat name: INDEPENDENT
Make: BWM RAPIER
Length: 9m +
Engine: Ob 2*250/2t yams hpd
MMSI: 235030702
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 885
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Kia Sorento .. tons of torque, quality build matches that of BMW/ cheaper, better than any other 4x4.. of course I am bias as I have one since 2004- tows up to 2800 kgs , very comfortable. Good road car as well.
Now with 50000 miles on it - never been to a garage..tyres still original..Negative - a few bangs at the back as writer reverses by ear.. ( bad rear vision).
Jonathan
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06 August 2007, 21:18
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Staffordshire
Boat name: Pacific 9134
Make: Halmatic
Length: 6m +
Engine: 300hp Suzuki
MMSI: 232043887
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 623
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nissan patrol 4.2d, ours has never let us down, we have a defender, and shogun, and for launching retreiving and towing long distance it is the best. the patrol does more to the gallon 33 infact, and we love it. we also use it as a shed, becuse its just huge
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07 August 2007, 08:28
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Over here
Boat name: S.S. Nobstick
Make: Three Wise Monkeys
Length: 3m +
Engine: 44lbs of thrust....
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 2,127
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Martha Focker
... the patrol does more to the gallon 33 infact,...
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........and how do you drive it to achieve this fuel/mileage? I don't remember getting much more than low to mid 20's..
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08 August 2007, 16:37
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Staffordshire
Boat name: Pacific 9134
Make: Halmatic
Length: 6m +
Engine: 300hp Suzuki
MMSI: 232043887
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 623
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drive it normally mate , why is this an unusual thing its a good thing i would say
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08 August 2007, 18:57
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: swansea
Boat name: Too Blue
Make: BLANK
Length: 8m +
Engine: Suzuki DT225
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 12,791
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Quote:
Originally Posted by eupa
Kia Sorento .. tons of torque, quality build matches that of BMW/ cheaper, better than any other 4x4.. of course I am bias as I have one since 2004- tows up to 2800 kgs , very comfortable. Good road car as well.
Now with 50000 miles on it - never been to a garage..tyres still original..Negative - a few bangs at the back as writer reverses by ear.. ( bad rear vision).
Jonathan
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I would have thought you of all people would have been biasED rather than bias - obviously notED..........
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09 August 2007, 12:59
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Member
Country: Belgium
Town: NIVELLES BELGIUM
Boat name: INDEPENDENT
Make: BWM RAPIER
Length: 9m +
Engine: Ob 2*250/2t yams hpd
MMSI: 235030702
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 885
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I would have thought you of all people would have been biasED rather than bias - obviously notED
Got me Codders... GUILTY..
Jonathan
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