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20 January 2009, 18:42
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Country: UK - Wales
Town: Here
Boat name: doggypaddle
Make: Avon 5.4 Searider
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Originally Posted by codprawn
Most of the people driving without insurance are also driving around on false plates or in foreign cars that don't get caught anyway - this move will do NOTHING to stop it!!!
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Fair enough comment, it won't stop those drivers, but there will be ongoing research into software that recognises the make and model and colour of a car and cross refrences it to the DVLA database in conjunction with ANPR so unless the false plates are on an identical car that will catch them out,
I really think youre crediting some of these uninsured drivers with too much inteligence, lets face it theres probably a rather skint postman in portsmouth driving around in an uninsured car because all his money was scammed off him, wouldnt even think of changing the plates and he wont be the only one
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20 January 2009, 18:46
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Country: UK - England
Town: The wilds of Wiltshire
Boat name: Dominator
Make: SR5.4
Length: 7m +
Engine: Yam 85
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Originally Posted by Dirk Diggler
I can assure you that I'm far from perfect, but I am quite capable of keeping all my paperwork for motor vehicles in order.
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'til you don't....
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20 January 2009, 18:54
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Country: UK - England
Town: Norfolk/Suffolk Borders
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Codprawn "Unisured drivers costing us £30 a year? A drop in the ocean "
With two cars and a bike in our household , that's £90 !
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20 January 2009, 19:06
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Country: UK - England
Town: The wilds of Wiltshire
Boat name: Dominator
Make: SR5.4
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Originally Posted by Bern Hanreck
With two cars and a bike in our household , that's £90 !
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I think you'll find it's also not true about the £30.
The quoted £30 is I believe what's paid by your insurance company into the Motor Insurers Bureau.I'd bet you'll find that won't change if there's no uninsured drivers.
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20 January 2009, 19:23
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Country: UK - England
Town: Norfolk/Suffolk Borders
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£30 or £90 pales into insignificance against a serious injury or fatality , especially if it's a " bread winner "
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20 January 2009, 19:24
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Country: UK - Scotland
Make: HumberOceanOffshore
Length: 8m +
Engine: Volvo KAD300/DPX
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Quote:
Originally Posted by doggypaddle
What if your old forgetful and....then you may rely on the reminder to jog your memory to do it all the old fashioned way.
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20 January 2009, 19:34
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Country: UK - England
Town: The wilds of Wiltshire
Boat name: Dominator
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bern Hanreck
£30 or £90 pales into insignificance against a serious injury or fatality , especially if it's a " bread winner "
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But it negates the argument of it costing you 30 quid if it's going to cost you 30 quid anyway.
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20 January 2009, 19:34
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Town: Hamble
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nos4r2
'til you don't....
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When I'm not capable of keeping my paperwork in order, then it'll be time to stop driving!
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20 January 2009, 19:41
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: Here
Boat name: doggypaddle
Make: Avon 5.4 Searider
Length: 5m +
Engine: yamaha 80
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dirk Diggler
When I'm not capable of keeping my paperwork in order, then it'll be time to stop driving!
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Wouldnt be ironic though if the time you realise you cant keep your paper in order is when you get fined for no insurance
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20 January 2009, 21:43
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Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Glasgow
Boat name: stramash
Make: Tornado
Length: 5m +
Engine: Etec 90
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 5,090
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nos4r2
The problm is, DVLA are very lax about sending out SORN reminders. They seem to prefer to send out on the spot fines instead,a month after the SORN expires. It's not like you've got a 'sorn disc' as a reminder.
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Correct, I was restoring an old vintage tractor, and didnt renew the licence as it was in my workshop for over 2 years..... in bits, then I got fined automagicly Best thing is .. the vintage tax disc is free anyway
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20 January 2009, 22:34
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Country: UK - England
Town: The wilds of Wiltshire
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bigmuz7
Correct, I was restoring an old vintage tractor, and didnt renew the licence as it was in my workshop for over 2 years..... in bits, then I got fined automagicly Best thing is .. the vintage tax disc is free anyway
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Exactly.
Funnily enough, when we forgot to renew a sorn document because some stuff was lost during a move 3 months before-even though we updated vehicle documents-DVLA didn't send a sorn reminder even though when SORN was first set up it was promised. They decided to send a fine as first contact and bleated on about how it wasn't their legal responsibility to send reminders.
Wait til they start issuing 6 points automatically along with the fine and tell you that they don't have any legal duty to remind you...
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20 January 2009, 23:48
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Country: UK - England
Town: Wilmslow
Boat name: Serotonin
Make: Quicksilver
Length: 3m +
Engine: Mariner 15
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 712
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bern Hanreck
£30 or £90 pales into insignificance against a serious injury or fatality , especially if it's a " bread winner "
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I agree entirely but it does sound a bit like another stealth tax on innocent victims if it was a serious attempt to rid the roads of uninsured drivers then it would be acceptable. The report was in the Torygraph
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21 January 2009, 13:14
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Town: swanwick/hamble
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Length: 8m +
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i got done for failing to renew a sorn, but when i blew up about it they said that they didn't need to send reminders, when i pionted out that i have an old car, van and tractor that haven't been sorned for 10 years they said those didn't count, what the f!"$^ going on do they make it up as they go along
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