X5, Rangie,Q7,Merc GL

[Tony]

Originally Posted by Bigmuz7

Really ? didnt know that .. Have often wondered how an auto box handles hauling a heavy load, with 350 bhp up at the front end without it hurting the box.

Anyone got any views on the Q7's ?

David Beckham has one............

[Kernow Buoy]

Originally Posted by Bigmuz7

Really ? didnt know that .. Have often wondered how an auto box handles hauling a heavy load, with 350 bhp up at the front end without it hurting the box.

Anyone got any views on the Q7's ?

Yes, next time you see one check and see if its rear bumper is sooty from the exhaust, apparently thats the ecu playing up and Audi can't find the fault.

[Mollers]

Originally Posted by Kernow

Yes, next time you see one check and see if its rear bumper is sooty from the exhaust, apparently thats the ecu playing up and Audi can't find the fault.

That only 'appens if you run 'em on a mixture of red diesel, chip fat and Doom Bar.

[Kernow Buoy]

Originally Posted by Mollers

That only 'appens if you run 'em on a mixture of red diesel, chip fat and Doom Bar.

thats what I run on!

[codprawn]

Originally Posted by Tony

Urmm nah, your'e out of order as normal codders.
I had the grand cherokee limited and it was jam packed with electrics/toys.
Build quality compared to brit cars.......come on.... and who said about going offroad?

Compare it with a NEW Range Rover - different league!!!

One of my best mates was an auto electrician - he's just emigrated to Ozzi land. He spent a lot of time working on all sorts of luxury cars - installing mobile phone kits etc etc. He reckoned that the wiring on Yank cars was 20 years out of date. And this isn't someone who hates Yank cars - he used to play around with funny cars and top fuel dragsters. He even had an old Ford Mercury pickup. The best thing about Yank cars are their big muscle engines - awesome!!! Their auto boxes are pretty good as well - a lot more agricultural than the German stuff but a lot tougher. Jeeps do eat their diffs though!!!

Yank cars don't go around corners either..........

[Bigmuz7]

Originally Posted by Kernow

Yes, next time you see one check and see if its rear bumper is sooty from the exhaust, apparently thats the ecu playing up and Audi can't find the fault.

Well I was thinking about the 4.2 petrol which was the same engine in my last Audi S6.. a stonker.. but thirsty.. are the diesels crap then ?

I'm smitten by the merc V8 4 litre turbo diesel, its power and silence are astonishing Think the Rangie diesel is only 3.6 though, but I've heard good reports, but for the size of bus the V8 petrol SC is the most preferable I think

[Kernow Buoy]

Originally Posted by Bigmuz7

Well I was thinking about the 4.2 petrol which was the same engine in my last Audi S6.. a stonker.. but thirsty.. are the diesels crap then ?

No, but there's a report of a fault emerging that apparently can't as yet be found or fixed, mpg is down to 16 and Audi have offered refunds. Don't know how many units affected by this.

[codprawn]

Vorsprung durch technic as they say in the Farterland.........

[Bigmuz7]

Originally Posted by codprawn

Vorsprung durch technic as they say in the Farterland.........

Hehe codders you are a died in the wool biased man The Bosch might not like it up em.. but they dont half build some good motors

[codprawn]

Originally Posted by Bigmuz7

Hehe codders you are a died in the wool biased man The Bosch might not like it up em.. but they dont half build some good motors

There is one vital ingredient missing from German cars and that is FUN. About 2 years ago I went straight from an Audi A4 estate to an Alfa 156 - at first I was horrified by the alfa - it felt so flimsy and cheap after the Audi but after 1 hr of driving the Alfa you would never have prised the keys off me. After 16,000 miles of severe thrashing the Alfa felt better than the Audi as well.

Think I will go and watch Fawlty Towers now..........

[osprey__viper]

Originally Posted by Bigmuz7

Really ? didnt know that .. Have often wondered how an auto box handles hauling a heavy load, with 350 bhp up at the front end without it hurting the box.

Anyone got any views on the Q7's ?

The gear box in the TDV8 RR is all new. ZF 6 speed unit. Dont worry too much about it being a 3.6. It's got enough torque to pull a house down

Had three days with a Q7 recently. We had an 07/07 traded in against a new RRS TDV8. Very impressive array of toys inside. Bit like the flight deck of starship enterprise. But it really didnt like the rocks on our mini offroad course at the dealership.

I think it boils down to what is going to make you happy. Thing is with LR they will openly admit that they make "built for purpose 4x4's" It just happens that the current breed of LR product is very good on the road.

This thread could rumble on for ever. What ever you choose, enjoy it.

[Mollers]

I know a chap that had an X5, swapped it for an RR Sport. After a month he chucked the RR back at the dealer and bought another X5. Apparently the Toureg is on a par with the X5 on tarmac.

[Bigmuz7]

Originally Posted by Mollers

I know a chap that had an X5, swapped it for an RR Sport. After a month he chucked the RR back at the dealer and bought another X5. Apparently the Toureg is on a par with the X5 on tarmac.

whats a twareg

[codprawn]

I think he means a toerag..........

[Lostboy]

Originally Posted by Mollers

Apparently the Toureg is on a par with the X5 on tarmac.

And of course with the low ratio box, trick diffs and all the other clever bits of kit is significantly better off road. Stick some HR rated General Grabbers or BFGs on it and it's just about the perfect allround car.

You also have the option of serious badge snobbery and buying it as a Porsche as well.

You'll struggle to find more torque than the V10 TD in the Touareg.

[J S]

Originally Posted by Lostboy

And of course with the low ratio box, trick diffs and all the other clever bits of kit is significantly better off road. Stick some HR rated General Grabbers or BFGs on it and it's just about the perfect allround car.

You also have the option of serious badge snobbery and buying it as a Porsche as well.

You'll struggle to find more torque than the V10 TD in the Touareg.

Yes they towed a jumbo jet with it.

Story Here

James

[codprawn]

Originally Posted by J S

Yes they towed a jumbo jet with it.

Story Here

James

And another bloke towed one with his ear - it's a gimmick..........

[Bigmuz7]

Well I dont really need to go off road much, I have works 4x4s that I do all that with,.. and btw dirt devils are the ones . Yes most 4x4's are much more impressive when tyred correctly.. Chopped V8 Rangies and suzuki SJ's are the ones to beat, imo. I have no 747's to tow either , but I did sit in a VW a year or so ago but I found it too small in many respects. Seems to be a bit of a shortage of SC 4.2 Rangies though.. seems everyone is going for the diesels now, poor consumption and lack of green credentials must be stiffelling demand, you'd think they'ed be falling over themselves to sell big petrols then, but not so .. I guesse a lot are built to order these days so dealers wont be sitting with unshiftable stock. Forgot how pricey the Rangies are I can get a top spec M-tech 4.8 beemer for £15k less

[Lostboy]

Originally Posted by Bigmuz7

Well I dont really need to go off road much, I have works 4x4s that I do all that with,.. and btw dirt devils are the ones . Yes most 4x4's are much more impressive when tyred correctly.. Chopped V8 Rangies and suzuki SJ's are the ones to beat, imo. I have no 747's to tow either , but I did sit in a VW a year or so ago but I found it too small in many respects. Seems to be a bit of a shortage of SC 4.2 Rangies though.. seems everyone is going for the diesels now, poor consumption and lack of green credentials must be stiffelling demand, you'd think they'ed be falling over themselves to sell big petrols then, but not so .. I guesse a lot are built to order these days so dealers wont be sitting with unshiftable stock. Forgot how pricey the Rangies are I can get a top spec M-tech 4.8 beemer for £15k less

So actually you don't need one at all and should be looking at proper cars instead of a Chelsea tractor?! Mind you we should have guessed that when you said you were looking at Merc GL and X5s!

[Bigmuz7]

Originally Posted by Lostboy

So actually you don't need one at all and should be looking at proper cars instead of a Chelsea tractor?! Mind you we should have guessed that when you said you were looking at Merc GL and X5s!

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