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10 February 2018, 22:53
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Member
Country: USA
Town: Pacific Beach
Boat name: Dash II
Make: Willard
Length: 7m +
Engine: Cummins
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 623
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1992 Willard 730 - $129,000
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11 February 2018, 12:28
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Gosport
Boat name: April Lass
Make: Moody 31
Length: 9m +
Join Date: Aug 2001
Posts: 4,951
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11 February 2018, 12:57
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Member
Country: USA
Town: Pacific Beach
Boat name: Dash II
Make: Willard
Length: 7m +
Engine: Cummins
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 623
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yep, saw that one. nice boat.
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11 February 2018, 19:02
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Member
Country: USA
Town: Orange County, CA
Boat name: Northwind
Make: Northwind
Length: 10m +
Engine: Twin Yamaha 350's
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 188
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Originally Posted by zip
Looks nice, but $129,000 seems a little pricey.
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The price is actually pretty reasonable if you're a commercial operator.
This isn't one of the military surplus Willards, it's a purpose-built boat that has been COI'D by the USCG to carry 13 passengers for hire.
This one used to be a snorkel tour boat on Catalina Island and worked all the time.
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11 February 2018, 19:21
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Member
Country: USA
Town: Pacific Beach
Boat name: Dash II
Make: Willard
Length: 7m +
Engine: Cummins
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 623
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hmmm, ok. I didn't know it would cost so much to refurb one of these.
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11 February 2018, 19:38
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Member
Country: USA
Town: Orange County, CA
Boat name: Northwind
Make: Northwind
Length: 10m +
Engine: Twin Yamaha 350's
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 188
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Originally Posted by zip
hmmm, ok. I didn't know it would cost so much to refurb one of these.
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It doesn't, you can buy very nicely refurbished Willard 7meter RHIBs all day for $30,000.
The value of this boat lies in the fact that it's a COI'd commercial boat.
There aren't a lot of COI'd RHIBs in the first place and they seldom come up for sale.
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11 February 2018, 19:40
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Member
Country: USA
Town: Pacific Beach
Boat name: Dash II
Make: Willard
Length: 7m +
Engine: Cummins
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 623
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^^^^
aaah, got it.
thanks for the education.
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19 February 2018, 06:20
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Member
Country: USA
Town: Northern California
Make: Hurricane H630
Length: 7m +
Engine: 2007 Honda 150
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 57
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Quote:
Originally Posted by capntroy
It doesn't, you can buy very nicely refurbished Willard 7meter RHIBs all day for $30,000.
The value of this boat lies in the fact that it's a COI'd commercial boat.
There aren't a lot of COI'd RHIBs in the first place and they seldom come up for sale.
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A little off topic, do you know if this same boat (Willard) carrying 6 or less paying passengers only would need a COI ??
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19 February 2018, 06:35
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Member
Country: USA
Town: Orange County, CA
Boat name: Northwind
Make: Northwind
Length: 10m +
Engine: Twin Yamaha 350's
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 188
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ddgtr
A little off topic, do you know if this same boat (Willard) carrying 6 or less paying passengers only would need a COI ??
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No, there are some requirements that the boat would need to adhere to, but there is no inspection per se.
The operator would need to have his 6-pack (OUPV) license though.
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19 February 2018, 06:51
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Member
Country: USA
Town: Northern California
Make: Hurricane H630
Length: 7m +
Engine: 2007 Honda 150
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 57
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Quote:
Originally Posted by capntroy
No, there are some requirements that the boat would need to adhere to, but there is no inspection per se.
The operator would need to have his 6-pack (OUPV) license though.
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Thanks!
I do have my OUPV in good standing. I know that for a boat less than 5 tons you don't need to document it, but to use it for hire it needs to be registered as "commercial passenger". I can't seem to get anyone to point me in the right direction as to how to do that with my local DMV here in California. Coast Guard seem only interested in COD and COI.
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19 February 2018, 06:58
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Member
Country: USA
Town: Orange County, CA
Boat name: Northwind
Make: Northwind
Length: 10m +
Engine: Twin Yamaha 350's
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 188
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Originally Posted by ddgtr
Thanks!
I do have my OUPV in good standing. I know that for a boat less than 5 tons you don't need to document it, but to use it for hire it needs to be registered as "commercial passenger". I can't seem to get anyone to point me in the right direction as to how to do that with my local DMV here in California. Coast Guard seem only interested in COD and COI.
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Might as well just go ahead & document it...I use the Mary Conlin Company in Newport Beach to document my boats, no hassles...
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19 February 2018, 07:02
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Member
Country: USA
Town: Northern California
Make: Hurricane H630
Length: 7m +
Engine: 2007 Honda 150
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 57
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Quote:
Originally Posted by capntroy
Might as well just go ahead & document it...I use the Mary Conlin Company in Newport Beach to document my boats, no hassles...
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I tried, the problem is the CG's National Vessel Documentation Center will NOT document vessels less than 5 tons. They have to be state registered, but not as "pleasure". It's frustrating
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19 February 2018, 07:20
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Member
Country: USA
Town: Orange County, CA
Boat name: Northwind
Make: Northwind
Length: 10m +
Engine: Twin Yamaha 350's
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 188
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ddgtr
I tried, the problem is the CG's National Vessel Documentation Center will NOT document vessels less than 5 tons. They have to be state registered, but not as "pleasure". It's frustrating
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Any reason not to call the boat 6 tons then? It's not like anybody is going to admeasure it...
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19 February 2018, 07:22
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Member
Country: USA
Town: Northern California
Make: Hurricane H630
Length: 7m +
Engine: 2007 Honda 150
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 57
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Quote:
Originally Posted by capntroy
Any reason not to call the boat 6 tons then? It's not like anybody is going to admeasure it...
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Haha, you got me thinking... No, if I remember correctly, they do need measurements
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19 February 2018, 07:23
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Member
Country: USA
Town: Orange County, CA
Boat name: Northwind
Make: Northwind
Length: 10m +
Engine: Twin Yamaha 350's
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 188
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ddgtr
Haha, you got me thinking... No, if I remember correctly, they do need measurements
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There's got to be a way to skin that cat...
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19 February 2018, 15:29
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Member
Country: USA
Town: S. Carolina
Boat name: D560
Make: Avon
Length: 5m +
Engine: 2016 Merc 115hp CT
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 1,277
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Important note:
Vessels carrying passengers for hire must comply with JONES ACT, which dictates a >51% made in the USA construction.
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20 February 2018, 05:56
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Member
Country: USA
Town: Northern California
Make: Hurricane H630
Length: 7m +
Engine: 2007 Honda 150
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 57
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You are correct. There is also a waiver program available for $500. The boat has to be more than 3 years old, and must only be used for transporting passengers, no cargo. What is really frustrating is that the CG are buying all these ribs from Canada for their use, then they turn around and charge us $500 for the waiver because we are supposed to use vessels made here so as not to cause burden to local shipbuilders...
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