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21 June 2017, 17:52
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US Manufacturers of 35' RIBs with COI
I know of RIBCRAFT and Zodiac that produce larger RIBs for the tour business but are there others?
Seems like a small market here in the states.
Thanks in advance.
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21 June 2017, 17:58
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Quote:
Originally Posted by matthewtreid
I know of RIBCRAFT and Zodiac that produce larger RIBs for the tour business but are there others?
Seems like a small market here in the states.
Thanks in advance.
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That's about it.
"Jones Act" in action.
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21 June 2017, 18:21
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Country: USA
Town: Arundel
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Originally Posted by office888
That's about it.
"Jones Act" in action.
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Jeez. Do you think there's enough demand for another builder to enter the space? I would like there must be.
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22 June 2017, 00:08
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Country: USA
Town: S. Carolina
Boat name: D560
Make: Avon
Length: 5m +
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Quote:
Originally Posted by matthewtreid
Jeez. Do you think there's enough demand for another builder to enter the space? I would like there must be.
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Demand is low and margins are low.
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22 June 2017, 05:36
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Country: USA
Town: Orange County, CA
Boat name: Northwind
Make: Northwind
Length: 10m +
Engine: Twin Yamaha 350's
Join Date: Feb 2008
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Willard Marine makes COI'd RIBS...and Commercial Water Sports does also.
Scarab has 2 sizes of COI'd RIBS that they market under the name of Scarib...although those may be made by Willard now also...
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22 June 2017, 10:30
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Quote:
Originally Posted by office888
Demand is low and margins are low.
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I can see demand being low but not so sure about the margins. 34' RIBCRAFT is 375K, seems okay to me.
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22 June 2017, 10:36
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Quote:
Originally Posted by capntroy
Willard Marine makes COI'd RIBS...and Commercial Water Sports does also.
Scarab has 2 sizes of COI'd RIBS that they market under the name of Scarib...although those may be made by Willard now also...
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Neither look like they make RIBS and I don't see a COI for Scarab.
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22 June 2017, 11:55
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Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: DF140a
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Pardon my ignorance but what's COI?
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22 June 2017, 11:57
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Town: Wild West
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pikey Dave
Pardon my ignorance but what's COI?
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COI.T.U.S???...Youve got a family PD! 
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22 June 2017, 12:03
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Town: South Yorks
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Originally Posted by Maximus
COI.T.U.S???...Youve got a family PD! |
Trust you to interrupt us[emoji57]
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22 June 2017, 12:04
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Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Maximus
COI.T.U.S???...Youve got a family PD! |
Trust you to interrupt us[emoji57]
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22 June 2017, 12:06
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Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
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Maybe we should withdraw from this topic before it goes too far[emoji848]
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22 June 2017, 16:06
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Country: USA
Town: S. Carolina
Boat name: D560
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pikey Dave
Pardon my ignorance but what's COI?
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Certificate of Inspection. A USCG inspector views the entire build process and reviews the engineering drawings to ensure your boat isn't garbage.
Passenger vessels must also be Jones Act compliant.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercha...ne_Act_of_1920
The vessels must be: - owned by U.S. companies that are controlled by U.S. citizens with at least 75 percent U.S. percent ownership;
- at least 75 percent crewed by U.S. citizens;
- built (or rebuilt) in the United States; and
- registered in the United States.
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22 June 2017, 22:20
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Country: New Zealand
Town: Auckland
Make: Gemini Waverider 550
Length: 5m +
Engine: Johnson 90hp
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Is that why Gemini boats are not sold in the US but instead finished locally and sold as Fluid? I guess they build some pretty large boats to add to your list?
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22 June 2017, 22:43
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardinNZ
Is that why Gemini boats are not sold in the US but instead finished locally and sold as Fluid? I guess they build some pretty large boats to add to your list?
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https://www.fluidboats.com
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23 June 2017, 05:32
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Town: San Diego
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The Jones act is usually only enforced if you are contested by a company with a US built hull. I worked on a US built America's cup yacht; our competitor was able to charterer Il Moro an Italian syndicate yacht, up until we contested it. I've also worked on COI hurricane 733 that was built in B.C.
If you are in a market with no other competitors the coast guard doesn't always care.
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23 June 2017, 05:38
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Country: USA
Town: Orange County, CA
Boat name: Northwind
Make: Northwind
Length: 10m +
Engine: Twin Yamaha 350's
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Quote:
Originally Posted by matthewtreid
Neither look like they make RIBS and I don't see a COI for Scarab.
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http://www.teamscarab.com/resources/level-2/kona-rib.htm
http://www.willardmarine.com/applications/commercial-boats.html
http://www.willardmarine.com/boats/passenger/willard-scarib-54.html
http://www.cwsboats.com/seaquest.htm
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24 June 2017, 17:55
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Member
Country: USA
Town: Simi Valley, California
Boat name: Inspearation
Make: Nautica
Length: 5m +
Engine: Outboard
Join Date: Jun 2014
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Yeah what is a COI?
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24 June 2017, 20:08
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Member
Country: USA
Town: Simi Valley, California
Boat name: Inspearation
Make: Nautica
Length: 5m +
Engine: Outboard
Join Date: Jun 2014
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Blue Man
Yeah what is a COI?
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Never mind, I see the answer now. Thanks for the info.
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11 July 2017, 01:41
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Member
Country: USA
Town: Fort Lauderdale
Make: Fluid 10.6m
Length: 9m +
Engine: 2x Mercury 300hp
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 324
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Gemini /Fluid
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Originally Posted by RichardinNZ
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Gemini make our hull and tubes in SA, we use the name Fluid Watercraft as there is Gemini who is locally made catamaran company.
Gemini make the boats slightly different for us, One of the main differences is the removable / slide on hypalon tubes.
We receive requests for COI boats almost once a week. We unfortunately cannot produce a COI boat at the moment.
We do have a Jone's Act compliant 7.6m.
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