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11 November 2008, 15:26
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6.5m Humber with Etec 150
Could this be towed on a single axle trailer if anyone does what's it tow like?
Cheers,
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11 November 2008, 16:26
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Originally Posted by Simon B
Could this be towed on a single axle trailer if anyone does what's it tow like?
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Im towing a Vipermax 6.5 with a single axle Dixon Bate and it tows really well and is probably a bit heavier as it goes. A lot will depend on the trailer but I can highly recommend DB trailers.
R2B61 is the model of trailer.
I guess the other point is depends on what you are towing it with.
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11 November 2008, 16:50
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My 6.5m Scorpion with 150 Opti is on a single axle Indespension trailer. Tows fine behind a Discovery.
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11 November 2008, 17:10
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7 Metre Humber with Suzi250... no problem on single axle...with the right tow vehicle.
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12 November 2008, 12:28
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris
Im towing a Vipermax 6.5 with a single axle Dixon Bate and it tows really well and is probably a bit heavier as it goes. A lot will depend on the trailer but I can highly recommend DB trailers.
R2B61 is the model of trailer.
I guess the other point is depends on what you are towing it with.
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1100 kg capacity would seem a little on the low side, what does your trailer + rib weigh when fuelled and loaded
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12 November 2008, 14:02
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Originally Posted by bedajim
1100 kg capacity would seem a little on the low side, what does your trailer + rib weigh when fuelled and loaded
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1,091 with a full tank of fuel so if I plan to get an aux it will have to in the boot when towing ;-)
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12 November 2008, 14:05
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris
1,091 with a full tank of fuel so if I plan to get an aux it will have to in the boot when towing ;-)
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So is that calculated or weighbridge
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12 November 2008, 18:15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bedajim
So is that calculated or weighbridge
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You've really got to get some help with this fixation with other peoples boat weights and trailer capacities
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12 November 2008, 19:28
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Simon B
Could this be towed on a single axle trailer if anyone does what's it tow like?
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I recon you'll be fine using a single axle trailer, go for the largest capacity you can which will probably be an 1800kg Gross one.
I have a De Graaff trailer and have have no problems with it what so ever. I think they are priced pretty well too. Mine cost a fraction over £2000 with all the extras.
http://www.degraafftrailers.co.uk/sw...B1800-2ADJ.htm
http://stores.ebay.co.uk/De-Graaff-Trailers
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12 November 2008, 19:41
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Simon B
Could this be towed on a single axle trailer if anyone does what's it tow like?
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A 6.5 destroyer will be fine on a single axle trailer, as others have said, it will depend on what you tow with?
I would go 1500kg minimum, We use SBS and get on well with them and they are offering keen prices at the moment.
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12 November 2008, 20:32
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bedajim
So is that calculated or weighbridge
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VOSA Weighbridge off J18 on the M4. I had actually calculated it as slightly higher before I took it to the WB.
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12 November 2008, 20:41
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Quote:
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VOSA Weighbridge off J18 on the M4. I had actually calculated it as slightly higher before I took it to the WB.
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I would have guessed it to be nearer 1500kg, are you sure you had both wheels on the bridge
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12 November 2008, 21:04
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Hi Simon,
I tow my 6.3 Humber with 1.7 diesel inboard on a single axle trailer.
Its a Rapide, (Dixon Bate) trailer with an 1800 kilo maximum, (boat AND trailer). I have put it on a weighbridge and fully fueled and equipped its right on the maximum.
Your boat will always weigh more than you think, so (my guess) ensure its a 1600 set up at least. 1800 IS probabaly the most you will get on a single axle. They will need to be heavyweight bearings and hubs.
As to HOW it tows is going to be more down to your vehicle and how its set up. You will need to weigh the down-force on the tow ball. There is a mathamatical number it should be, depending on the total weight of boat/trailer. (Can't remember - google it). However, in practice it you will probabaly have to set it to the maximum for your car which will probably be less than the 'official' amount. To adjust it you will need to move the position of the axle... or move things around in the boat. Too little weight on the tow ball and the trailer will swing when towing. Also, the closer the tow ball is to the rear axle on your car the better. 4x4s are best. I tow with a Grand Cherokee and thats fine.
Best of luck!
Mike C
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12 November 2008, 21:26
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Country: UK - England
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I tow a 6.5 m Humber destroyer with a Suzuki DF175 on a single axle trailer, behind a Land Rover Discovery TD5. Towed it 2500 miles to Bordeaux and back. Boat full of camping gear (and wine on the way back ;-)
No problem whatsoever........
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13 November 2008, 08:51
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hightower
You've really got to get some help with this fixation with other peoples boat weights and trailer capacities
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The only fixation I have is the fact that a number of people on this forum will go on and on about kill chords, life jackets, safety, plastic bags for your mobile phone all of which have to contribute to a safer boating experience for us and others around us.
Then there are a few arseholes who tow their boat down a public road knowingly with either an overweight trailer or tow vehicle that is under size for the size of trailer or even both, which I believe is illegal and would also invalidate their insurance in the event of an accident
Which is why I asked Chris about his trailer
Let me see which group you fit into
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Same one as before, the Kia. Plenty Good for short trips, might need something bigger for the longer ones.
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13 November 2008, 09:33
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ian Sharlot
I would have guessed it to be nearer 1500kg, are you sure you had both wheels on the bridge
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The all up Weight was 1,491.The Gross Capacity of the trailer is 1500KG.
So with the trailer weighing in at 400KG the boat weighed in 1091
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13 November 2008, 15:18
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[QUOTE=bedajim;271273] The only fixation I have is the fact that a number of people on this forum will go on and on about kill chords, life jackets, safety, plastic bags for your mobile phone all of which have to contribute to a safer boating experience for us and others around us.
Then there are a few arseholes who tow their boat down a public road knowingly with either an overweight trailer or tow vehicle that is under size for the size of trailer or even both, which I believe is illegal and would also invalidate their insurance in the event of an accident
Which is why I asked Chris about his trailer
Im with you on this one,probably one of the most important factors of the setup, yet in most cases the least thought about regarding the correct trailer boat combination , as previously been noted on another trailer related thread.
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13 November 2008, 21:47
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bedajim
..what does your trailer + rib weigh when fuelled and loaded
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris
1,091 with a full tank of fuel ..
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The all up Weight was 1,491...
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That's more like it
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14 November 2008, 11:10
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In Summaray then;
A single axle 1800kg trailer will be ample.
The twin axle debate I'm sure will now rage, fuelled be beer no doubt, maybe a couple of sherries if the ladies join battle.
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21 November 2008, 22:50
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bedajim
The only fixation I have is the fact that a number of people on this forum will go on and on about kill chords, life jackets, safety, plastic bags for your mobile phone all of which have to contribute to a safer boating experience for us and others around us.
Then there are a few arseholes who tow their boat down a public road knowingly with either an overweight trailer or tow vehicle that is under size for the size of trailer or even both, which I believe is illegal and would also invalidate their insurance in the event of an accident
Which is why I asked Chris about his trailer
Let me see which group you fit into
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Are you reffering to a certain "Bending Trailer" thread by any chance.
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