Am i legal??

[Nos4r2]

Originally Posted by Festinghouse

having bad habits doesnt always mean driving badly,

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Originally Posted by Festinghouse

and i would rather there was a little more leniency towards this to reflect the fact that the driver has been driving badly for years but has somehow fluked not killing someone, unlike when passing the first driving test.

FTFY

[Kraken999]

If I stop you towing a trailer please don't confuse me with someone else. Unless it's obviously unroadworthy all I want to know is that you haven't nicked the RIB that's sat on it.

[Crusher]

Just found 1 snippit of informatione that has worried me........ Please help me find somthing else which counters it

https://www.gov.uk/towing-with-car/c...d-width-limits

This webpage says (at the bottom of the page): -
Width and length

The maximum trailer width for any towing vehicle is 2.55 metres. The maximum length is 7 metres for a trailer towed by a vehicle weighing up to 3.5 tonnes (3,500 kilograms).

How do I tow my 7.8 meter rib around then (legally)?

[Poly]

Originally Posted by Crusher

Just found 1 snippit of informatione that has worried me........ Please help me find somthing else which counters it

https://www.gov.uk/towing-with-car/c...d-width-limits

This webpage says (at the bottom of the page): -
Width and length

The maximum trailer width for any towing vehicle is 2.55 metres. The maximum length is 7 metres for a trailer towed by a vehicle weighing up to 3.5 tonnes (3,500 kilograms).

How do I tow my 7.8 meter rib around then (legally)?

Search the forum for indivisible load.

[SW Boat Transport]

Originally Posted by Crusher

Just found 1 snippit of informatione that has worried me........ Please help me find somthing else which counters it

https://www.gov.uk/towing-with-car/c...d-width-limits

This webpage says (at the bottom of the page): -
Width and length

The maximum trailer width for any towing vehicle is 2.55 metres. The maximum length is 7 metres for a trailer towed by a vehicle weighing up to 3.5 tonnes (3,500 kilograms).

How do I tow my 7.8 meter rib around then (legally)?

2.55m is the maximum permitted trailer width. In the UK you are however allowed a overhang of upto 305mm each side, upto a maximum of 2.9m overall. Wider than this is possible, but you then become a abnormal load, which means marker boards, beacons and having to submit police notifications every time you go on the road! If you wish to go abroad above 2.55m wide it becomes much more complicated, as you will require permits in most mainland European countries, which are expensive and very restrictive.

7m is the maximum trailer length that you can tow behind a vehicle weighting upto 3500kg. This length however excludes the drawbar (very grey area where the drawbar starts on a boat trailer), coupling and rear overhang which can be upto 3.05m before you come into abnormal load territory. As long as you stay within 18.75m overall (towing vehicle and trailer) which is the maximum permitted length (without becoming a abnormal load) for a motor vehicle and drawbar trailer, then you are unlikely to have any problems.

[Gramas]

Well folks as of the Moro I'm on my way to becoming legal to tow my setup
Have 8 hour lesson booked tomoro and from that he can access where I'm at then book test.
Guy I've booked only teaches trailer towing , and skid pan driving / fast response driving for police etc so should be money well spent

[Nos4r2]

Nice!

[bartiny]

Originally Posted by Gramas

Well folks as of the Moro I'm on my way to becoming legal to tow my setup
Have 8 hour lesson booked tomoro and from that he can access where I'm at then book test.
Guy I've booked only teaches trailer towing , and skid pan driving / fast response driving for police etc so should be money well spent

Nice one, Good luck

[Bigmuz7]

Originally Posted by ShinyShoe

I quite agree...

If I ever have to sit a driving test again I hope they'll understand that I'm a busy man and have evolved myself to be able to multi-task unlike lesser mortals. So I am more than capable of checking my email on my phone while talking on it and possibly typing a text message at the same time. So I see no reason why they wont let me do that while doing this driving test malarky... ...people are always saying that tests should be more like real life. Maybe to spice things up they'll supply me a big mac to eat at the same time as well... if I manage to eat it without dropping the gerkin on my lap I should surely pass the test...?

Dood .. I hate to break it to ya .. but if I was your multi tasking driving examiner .. You have just failed.com ...

you have demonstrated a clear understanding of why it is important to handle several tasks whilst in control of your motor vehicle .. including the steering wheel , the phone, and possibly even retuning the radio to 'rock FM' .... you might even be allowed to touch your gear lever and indicator .. but.. you failed to spot that there is NO gerkin in a Big Mac .. .... NEXT

[Poly]

Originally Posted by Bigmuz7

.. but.. you failed to spot that there is NO gerkin in a Big Mac .. .... NEXT

Eh?

Do all the Big Mac ingredients come from the UK? If not, where they are sourced from? :: McDonalds.co.uk

Dill Pickle = Gherkin: Gherkin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[Festinghouse]

good luck mate, let us know how you get on

[kerny]

Good luck mate

[9D280]

Well, I haven't read this one 'till now, so by the time I got here I suspect some of these points may have already been covered in the chunk I skim read in the middle of the thread but, FWIW:

Originally Posted by Nos4r2

You either need a 750kg trailer, or a B+E licence. It's feasable and practical IF the current boat on trailer with normal kit onboard weighs under 750kg to effectively convert your trailer to an unbraked 750kg trailer and to stick a 750kg MAM plate on it.

However, it'd be a far better idea to go take the B+E test and then never have to worry about it.

+1 - I looked at rebuilding the unbraked trailer mine came on, and decided to just replace. Guess what, it was going to cost me about £450 more to buy a new braked vs unbraked..... The license gives better value for money.

Originally Posted by Crusher

Just found 1 snippit of informatione that has worried me........ Please help me find somthing else which counters it

<big snip>

How do I tow my 7.8 meter rib around then (legally)?

There was a big old thread about this recently.
As has already been said, boats don't quite follow the rules for "solid" trailers, but some rules cover all. (e.g you can fix your lights to the load (e.g transom of a sailing dinghy) and the baot itelf counts as the "body" of the trailer, but those sticky out outboard legs are classed as protrusions to the overhang rules apply.

Originally Posted by Gramas

Well folks as of the Moro I'm on my way to becoming legal to tow my setup

Good luck.


FWIW my boat clocks in at 420 Kg with 60 L of fuel. My car is OK to tow 750Kg Unbraked (I have a B+E!) but when I replaced the rustbucket that it as sat on I decided to go for a braked trailer for 3 reasons -

1) Furture proof it against lightrer tow vehicles
2) Proof it against the time it also has extra fuel / camping gear / new heavier engine etc etc on board
3) another braked axle can only help me to stop!

[Gramas]

Well folk that's me legal !!!!
Just back from test and passed with 2 minors so very pleased

[gtb]

Well done Gramas!

Did you learn anything particularly interesting on your course/test that you can share?

[Gramas]

Well apart from feeling ripped off at cost of lessons not loads although they were helpfull in terms of showing what's required to tow by the rules etc, everything tho will go out window like 10 to 2 driving position etc
It's now done and out the way which is main thing

[Barrowboy]

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