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09 July 2014, 08:43
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Ballistic 6.5's on trailer
Has anyone got a photo of their Ballistic 6.5 on a trailer?
The reason I ask :- I have been doing some research to give me all the information I need to change the bearings, as it looks like I need to do the brakes as well.
One conversation I found on an old thread was about the rear rollers and the distance to the transom, and in particular if the distance is over a few inches you risk damage to the hull / transom...
Mine is over a few inches!
I don't have any room to move the bow post forward, so my only option would be to move the rollers back if this is recommended.
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09 July 2014, 21:41
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Ballistic 6.5's on trailer
I would move the rollers back if I were you. Get some support as close to the transom as you can.
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09 July 2014, 21:45
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Thought that would be the case, but that isn't going to be easy with the boat on... So will do it on my next trip
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09 July 2014, 23:23
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Or move the boat and axle forward if it can't go back enough.
CJL
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10 July 2014, 07:41
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The bow post is as far forward as it will go
I need a bigger trailer I think
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10 July 2014, 08:04
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It will take you 10 minutes to move the rear roller assembly back. Good idea to make sure your nose weight is ok at the same time, as you may need to move the winch post too. Old set of analogue bathroom scales under the jockey wheel is ideal to check. I wouldn't move the axle unless you have to as you will need to set up your brakes again.
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10 July 2014, 08:26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveHall
I need a bigger trailer I think
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That trailer looks much to small.... I very much doubt it would be legal from a weight perspective.
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10 July 2014, 08:32
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris
That trailer looks much to small.... I very much doubt it would be legal from a weight perspective.
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,,,, and even if it is, I would jack up the trailer under the frame (as opposed to the axle) so that the axle hangs free - and double check the two bolts each side that fasten the welded axle yoke to the subframe. Check for corrosion or loose,,, it looks like a snipe
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10 July 2014, 09:13
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Yeah its a snipe.. been reading the horror story about the U bolts snapping in Italy..
I see lots of Ballistics for sale with this combo, but I would still prefer a larger trailer, but its a big expense. So far touch wood its been fine, and I have done a lot of miles with it.
I don't think its illegal, when I got the RIB & Trailer I had it inspected by a 3rd party and they felt it was in good condition and fine for the boat - the axle has a 1500kg rating and the weight inc trailer, engine & fuel load is 1250kg.
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10 July 2014, 09:17
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeff
,,,, and even if it is, I would jack up the trailer under the frame (as opposed to the axle) so that the axle hangs free - and double check the two bolts each side that fasten the welded axle yoke to the subframe. Check for corrosion or loose,,, it looks like a snipe
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You do realise that SBS, Indespension, Brenderup, Rapide, Bramber and Snipe all use 'U' bolts to hold on the Axel?
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10 July 2014, 09:33
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I would still be interested to see other Ballistic 6.5's on trailers..
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10 July 2014, 19:21
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Edges
You do realise that SBS, Indespension, Brenderup, Rapide, Bramber and Snipe all use 'U' bolts to hold on the Axel?
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I do ,,,, its how the axle is attached to the subframe I am interested in, as well as whether the u bolts to the subframe just clamp between the bottom rail and a plate or if they go through a subframe as I recollect seeing somewhere. It wasn't the u bolts that failed, it was the 2 12mm bolts holding the axle to the subframe that did
Thanks anyway
Jeff
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10 July 2014, 19:37
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I have alway been led to believe and followed the idea you need the last rollers right back supporting the transom, otherwise this can lead to a hook developing at the back of the hull with all the weight of the outboard hanging off it for extended periods,
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10 July 2014, 21:14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nick Hearne
I have alway been led to believe and followed the idea you need the last rollers right back supporting the transom, otherwise this can lead to a hook developing at the back of the hull with all the weight of the outboard hanging off it for extended periods,
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Yep, this is true.
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28 October 2014, 21:45
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveHall
Thought that would be the case, but that isn't going to be easy with the boat on... So will do it on my next trip
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We had todo just this the other day, with a car jack its not too difficult, however obviously if you can swap it out when the boats in the water even better.
Peter @ Boatsandoutboards4sale
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28 October 2014, 21:49
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I was actually thinking about this yesterday. Making a basic saddle for my jack to take the weight and move the arm back.
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05 January 2015, 20:13
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Hi Steve,
I've finally taken some pictures of my Ballistic on its trailer,
Any ideas how to get them attached to this tread?
Failing that, i could email them to you! Mike
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05 January 2015, 20:25
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Thanks Mike. I've sent a PM
I looked at this last time I was down at the boat, and I need to take the boat off to remove the arm and re fit, but this is a job for early in the season so the photos would be of interest. Steve
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