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04 April 2014, 11:12
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Acharacle
Boat name: Iolar
Make: Redbay
Length: 6m +
Engine: Suzuki DF175
Join Date: Sep 2012
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Can I tow this...?
Can I tow this with a 2.0 diesel Exeo Estate (140hp)? Braked obvs.
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04 April 2014, 11:35
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Southampton
Boat name: Hissing Sid
Make: Ross Smith Cobra
Length: 6m +
Engine: 200HP Optimax
MMSI: 235038046
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Posts: 3,804
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Guessing but probably about 1300kg all up.
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04 April 2014, 11:42
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Salisbury
Boat name: Blue C
Make: XS 600
Length: 6m +
Engine: 125hp Opti
MMSI: 235082826/235909566
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 1,439
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You have more detail than me, check the handbook then ask Redbay the weight!! I belive that the Exeo is 1400Kg !
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04 April 2014, 11:59
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Acharacle
Boat name: Iolar
Make: Redbay
Length: 6m +
Engine: Suzuki DF175
Join Date: Sep 2012
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Braked towing weight is 1800, car weighs 1490. Every time I try to work out what I can tow based on the discussion on here my head starts to hurt and I have to go and lie down. Was hoping for an adjudication from someone who understands the rules.
As far as the boat: hull weight is 710, engine another 200ish call it 900. 100kilos for rigging. 500 for the trailer? That would put it inside the allowed towing weight for the car.
But if the gvw for the trailer was, say 1800 then that wouldn't be allowed would it? I'd need it to be on a trailer plated for 1100 or 1200 right?
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04 April 2014, 12:08
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Chorley / Holyhead
Boat name: Northwind Challenger
Make: Tornado
Length: 6m +
Engine: Mariner 115 efi CT
MMSI: 235080598
Join Date: Jun 2011
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the weight on the plate refers to the total weight - trailer and boat etc together
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04 April 2014, 12:10
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Member
Country: UK - England
Boat name: Hysucat
Make: Hysucat
Length: 8m +
Engine: Twin Suzuki 175's
MMSI: 235102645
Join Date: Jun 2013
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Its so complicated I just ignore it
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04 April 2014, 12:14
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: London/Oxford
Make: Ribcrafts
Length: 5m +
Engine: 150hp/2x115hp
MMSI: 235090215
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 2,247
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You would be close and unfortuantely the only REAL way to know is take it to a weighbridge but they tend to be closed at the weekend - helpful!
Also its so complicated even the Met Police Commercial Vehicle Unit don't understand it!!
Chris
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04 April 2014, 12:25
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Acharacle
Boat name: Iolar
Make: Redbay
Length: 6m +
Engine: Suzuki DF175
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 1,047
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OK, maybe a simpler question is what weight of trailer can i tow in that car on a pre-'97 license with no extras on it.
And I thought that it was the plated weight on the trailer rather than the actual weight of the rig that mattered from a towing regs point of view?
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04 April 2014, 12:39
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Ashton-under-Lyne Lancs
Boat name: IMOGEN
Make: Air-Craft 5.4
Length: 5m +
Engine: Suzuki df70a
MMSI: 235087492
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 7,078
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Get yourself a 4x4 (Jap) ![wink](https://www.rib.net/forum/images/smilies/wink.gif) end of problem
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04 April 2014, 12:46
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Member
Country: Ireland
Town: Galway
Boat name: Top Banana
Make: Scorpion 9m
Length: 9m +
Engine: Yamaha 421STI
MMSI: Yeah right!
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 1,164
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Clamchowder
And I thought that it was the plated weight on the trailer rather than the actual weight of the rig that mattered from a towing regs point of view?
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I have the same understanding as you, but I'm not an expert either. Just what I gleaned from fellow nobburs who run businesses towing trailers and who should know what they're talking about, ie, SW Boat Transport, BigMuzz, etc.
Apologies in advance to the named gents above if I've got it completely wrong though!
As far as your car's concerned, I don't know it's stats but you've probably googled them, or looked in the handbook. For me, the key question for the seller of the Redbay then is 'what's the trailer it's sat on plated at'?
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04 April 2014, 12:51
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Acharacle
Boat name: Iolar
Make: Redbay
Length: 6m +
Engine: Suzuki DF175
Join Date: Sep 2012
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I'm afraid it's an academic query at the moment. I'd like to move up to something with a side-by-side console eventually, in the 6 to 6.5 category. But I haven't got 16 grand knocking around right now!
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04 April 2014, 12:56
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Easdale
Boat name: Miss Isle
Make: Solent 6.9
Length: 6m +
Engine: 225 optimax
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 1,427
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there are loads of sites that may not be accurate in legal terms, but will give yiu an idea of what your vehicle will be react like when towing
This one gives a reasonable idea
Towing CapacityÂ*Â*
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04 April 2014, 20:01
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: West Midlands
Boat name: Freespirit
Make: Redbay
Length: 6m +
Engine: Suzuki DF 140
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 361
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Originally Posted by Clamchowder
I'm afraid it's an academic query at the moment. I'd like to move up to something with a side-by-side console eventually, in the 6 to 6.5 category. But I haven't got 16 grand knocking around right now!
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It's a shame as that is a lovely hull and boat, if I had the money I would be there in a flash, same seats and console as ours but the hull is much wider and even better sea going capabilities
That would make a great package
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04 April 2014, 20:10
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Wakefield
Boat name: Bouncer
Make: Redbay Stormforce
Length: 6m +
Engine: 2x Honda 100 Hp
MMSI: 235025718
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 4,177
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Big heavy boats them mate you might struggle with a car
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04 April 2014, 21:00
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RIBnet admin team
Country: Ireland
Length: 4m +
Join Date: Feb 2008
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I can settle this debate.
I was in the office when a nice bloke put a deposit on it. It's in excellent condition - first to view bought
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04 April 2014, 21:03
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RIBnet admin team
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jizm
Guessing but probably about 1300kg all up.
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Closer to 1600.
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04 April 2014, 22:13
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Southampton
Boat name: Yarhoo
Make: Scorpion
Length: 6m +
Engine: Suzuki 150
Join Date: Nov 2011
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Agree- I weighed mine once, pretty full on fuel and came to 1540, was surprised thought it would be lighter. My 2.0d tows it well though.
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04 April 2014, 22:19
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Acharacle
Boat name: Iolar
Make: Redbay
Length: 6m +
Engine: Suzuki DF175
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 1,047
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Quote:
Originally Posted by willk
Closer to 1600.
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My estimate was 1500. Maybe my rigging estimate was low?
I really like the look of Redbays. I prefer a more 'commercial' look. Like Humber's.
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04 April 2014, 22:24
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#19
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Southampton
Boat name: Hissing Sid
Make: Ross Smith Cobra
Length: 6m +
Engine: 200HP Optimax
MMSI: 235038046
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 3,804
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Quote:
Originally Posted by willk
Closer to 1600.
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Blimey.....
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04 April 2014, 22:25
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#20
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Acharacle
Boat name: Iolar
Make: Redbay
Length: 6m +
Engine: Suzuki DF175
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 1,047
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jizm
Blimey.....
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Tis a sturdy tub and no mistake.
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