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Old 04 April 2014, 12:12   #1
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Can I tow this...?

Can I tow this with a 2.0 diesel Exeo Estate (140hp)? Braked obvs.
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Guessing but probably about 1300kg all up.
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You have more detail than me, check the handbook then ask Redbay the weight!! I belive that the Exeo is 1400Kg !
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Braked towing weight is 1800, car weighs 1490. Every time I try to work out what I can tow based on the discussion on here my head starts to hurt and I have to go and lie down. Was hoping for an adjudication from someone who understands the rules.

As far as the boat: hull weight is 710, engine another 200ish call it 900. 100kilos for rigging. 500 for the trailer? That would put it inside the allowed towing weight for the car.

But if the gvw for the trailer was, say 1800 then that wouldn't be allowed would it? I'd need it to be on a trailer plated for 1100 or 1200 right?
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the weight on the plate refers to the total weight - trailer and boat etc together
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You would be close and unfortuantely the only REAL way to know is take it to a weighbridge but they tend to be closed at the weekend - helpful!

Also its so complicated even the Met Police Commercial Vehicle Unit don't understand it!!

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OK, maybe a simpler question is what weight of trailer can i tow in that car on a pre-'97 license with no extras on it.

And I thought that it was the plated weight on the trailer rather than the actual weight of the rig that mattered from a towing regs point of view?
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Get yourself a 4x4 (Jap) end of problem
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And I thought that it was the plated weight on the trailer rather than the actual weight of the rig that mattered from a towing regs point of view?
I have the same understanding as you, but I'm not an expert either. Just what I gleaned from fellow nobburs who run businesses towing trailers and who should know what they're talking about, ie, SW Boat Transport, BigMuzz, etc.

Apologies in advance to the named gents above if I've got it completely wrong though!

As far as your car's concerned, I don't know it's stats but you've probably googled them, or looked in the handbook. For me, the key question for the seller of the Redbay then is 'what's the trailer it's sat on plated at'?
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I'm afraid it's an academic query at the moment. I'd like to move up to something with a side-by-side console eventually, in the 6 to 6.5 category. But I haven't got 16 grand knocking around right now!
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there are loads of sites that may not be accurate in legal terms, but will give yiu an idea of what your vehicle will be react like when towing

This one gives a reasonable idea

Towing CapacityÂ*Â*
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I'm afraid it's an academic query at the moment. I'd like to move up to something with a side-by-side console eventually, in the 6 to 6.5 category. But I haven't got 16 grand knocking around right now!
It's a shame as that is a lovely hull and boat, if I had the money I would be there in a flash, same seats and console as ours but the hull is much wider and even better sea going capabilities

That would make a great package
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Big heavy boats them mate you might struggle with a car
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I can settle this debate.

I was in the office when a nice bloke put a deposit on it. It's in excellent condition - first to view bought
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Guessing but probably about 1300kg all up.
Closer to 1600.
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Agree- I weighed mine once, pretty full on fuel and came to 1540, was surprised thought it would be lighter. My 2.0d tows it well though.
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Closer to 1600.
My estimate was 1500. Maybe my rigging estimate was low?

I really like the look of Redbays. I prefer a more 'commercial' look. Like Humber's.
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Closer to 1600.
Blimey.....
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Blimey.....
Tis a sturdy tub and no mistake.
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