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Old 15 March 2021, 09:55   #1
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Just a practical Q

It would be useful on occasions to get boat on its trailer up onto car ramps.
I have a Twin axle trailer, never tried this .... usually Jack it up and use axle stands.

Assume that I’d need to put ramps in front of the first pair of wheels, drive fwd and pull trailer onto ramps, the issue would of course be the rear pair of wheels.

Alternative would be to make a pair of ramps, longer than normal so both axles could rest on them, but welcome ideas before I consider manufacture.
They would be heavy items though.
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Or go the way sealey have?
https://www.sealey.co.uk/MR1-Carlift
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Or go the way sealey have?
https://www.sealey.co.uk/MR1-Carlift
Too much for me.
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It would be useful on occasions to get boat on its trailer up onto car ramps.
My preference would always be to remove the boat from the trailer.
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Been thinking of jacking up boat and pulling trailer out from under it, rear is easy as I have some screw thread triangular boat supports.
Would need to Jack up front and shuffle around packers to get trailer out in stages ... as obviously need to clear cross braces and axles.
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i had one of these work a treat



https://www.e-trailers.co.uk/extreme...ler-2275-p.asp
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Would not be suitable for a 1.8T 6.8m long hull, but could see it being useful for smaller boats.
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I used trolley jacks and axle stands.
Used two jacks and four stands. Cheap 2t trolley jacks will suffice. Keep it attached to the tow vehicle.
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Its in a boat shed on flat concrete floor ... so thinking I could jack up rear of boat, put in trinagular screw thread hull supports on the rear. Then jack up front using a troller jack 1 & vee shaped block of wood .... move trailer forward untill axles reach jack .... use another jack at bow, taking to load to alllow repositioning of jack 1 .... may mean a few such shuffles to get trailer out & clear.
Unless anyubody has simpler way.
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Its in a boat shed on flat concrete floor ... so thinking I could jack up rear of boat, put in trinagular screw thread hull supports on the rear. Then jack up front using a troller jack 1 & vee shaped block of wood .... move trailer forward untill axles reach jack .... use another jack at bow, taking to load to alllow repositioning of jack 1 .... may mean a few such shuffles to get trailer out & clear.
Unless anyubody has simpler way.
With small boats we used to pop some old tyres on similar soft material under the back of the boat. Tie strong point on transom to a secure anchor point, remove ALL straps/tiedows/winch and very gently pull the trailer forward. Add more tyres/padding as the trailer moves out from under boat. Boat can be winched back on with similar process that winches the trailer under the boat. No obvious reason that shouldn't work for a bigger boat.
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With small boats we used to pop some old tyres on similar soft material under the back of the boat. Tie strong point on transom to a secure anchor point, remove ALL straps/tiedows/winch and very gently pull the trailer forward. Add more tyres/padding as the trailer moves out from under boat. Boat can be winched back on with similar process that winches the trailer under the boat. No obvious reason that shouldn't work for a bigger boat.


I do it regularly
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Can you give a short explantion of how you do it ....
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You can make life a bit easier by winding your jockey wheel all the way up which will raise the aft end of the boat. You can then put a block underneath the aft end of the boat and wind the jocket wheel down which will effective lift the back end of the boat off the trailer.

I tend to use a ratchet strap from the bow eye to the trailer axle to move the boat or more correctly the trailer from under the boat. When it has been discussed on here before, some people tow the trailer out from under the boat but they are braver than I am plus I was struggling with space a bit. I think this is what PD is doing as he has anchored his boat using the green ratchet strap and he is about to drive off in his van.
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Can you give a short explantion of how you do it ....


I’m out at the moment, but I did a write up last year around May if you search.
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I’m out at the moment, but I did a write up last year around May if you search.


Here you go

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Thanks guys ..... will do that.
I have a powered winch in my boat shed so can pull boat off trailer if required
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Thanks guys ..... will do that.
I have a powered winch in my boat shed so can pull boat off trailer if required
Noooo! Don't pull the boat off the trailer. You have to pull the trailer out from under the boat. The boat has to stay stationary in relation to the ground, otherwise you'll pull it off the blocks.
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What I meant is that I would use it to get transom clear of trailer ... block that up, then pull out trailer from the front.
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What I meant is that I would use it to get transom clear of trailer ... block that up, then pull out trailer from the front.


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Just a practical Q

It would be useful on occasions to get boat on its trailer up onto car ramps.
I have a Twin axle trailer, never tried this .... usually Jack it up and use axle stands.

Assume that I’d need to put ramps in front of the first pair of wheels, drive fwd and pull trailer onto ramps, the issue would of course be the rear pair of wheels.

Alternative would be to make a pair of ramps, longer than normal so both axles could rest on them, but welcome ideas before I consider manufacture.
They would be heavy items though.
I would think (happens once a year) that there wouldn't be enough jobs to warrant having a trailer raised without the wheels free, to change wheel bearings etc.

Pulling a trailer up a ramp would be difficult, reversing it would be easier.

If you have to make your own ramps you may as well make a gantry and lift the boat off completely. I have made one in my carport to lift the boat off. This enables me to weld or grind without the chance of damaging the boat.
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