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05 May 2015, 22:59
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Can I tow it? I don't think I can.
2007 freelander with a 1500kg trailer max I can tow 3500kg
I know they take the MAM of the trailer but how do they work the car out?
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05 May 2015, 23:39
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Manufacturer's specification. You need to look up the vehicle - in the Owner's Handbook if you have one or online or ring a franchised dealer.
Then work it out according to when you got your licence & what groups you've got - isn't there a stickied 'how to' at the top of this page?
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05 May 2015, 23:54
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Noble95
Can I tow it?
2007 freelander with a 1500kg trailer?
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Yes, Freelanders are 2000kg according to Google
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Originally Posted by Noble95
max I can tow 3500kg
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Yes if you passed your test pre '97 or have taken a trailer test? (but not with a Freelander they're rated to 2000kg)
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Originally Posted by Noble95
how do they work the car out?
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Google tells them.
Does that help?
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06 May 2015, 00:09
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I think the car handbook has the MAM (sometimes called Gross Train Weight), which is derived from maximum car laden weight (GVW- Gross Vehicle Weight) plus trailer and load weight (GTW - Gross Trailer Weight).
The car will also have a stated max towing capacity (750kg for unbraked and as stated for braked). The Disco/RRS/FFRR have a tow capacity of 3.5T and ISTR the Freelander was less.
The trailer itself will be plated with a maximum Gross Trailer Weight (GTW) which is the max allowable weight of trailer including load (boat, fuel, kit, picnic et al).
If you're pulled over by the police/VOSA you'll be in the brown & smelly if either the MAM, GVW, or GTW is exceeded.
BSAC have a good guide to legal towing on their website.
Hope that helps?
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06 May 2015, 00:12
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The DVLA have a very helpful area on their website where you can select the licence you have, trailer size etc...
https://www.gov.uk/towing-rules
I found this to be somewhat different to alot of the guidance I've seen and in the BSAC towing guide...
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06 May 2015, 00:25
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Hmm, you're right - it is different to other guides I've seen! Thanks for that.
Edit: I did worry that I couldn't tow up to my RRS's towing capacity of 3.5T due to the link above but this link adds extra information for clarity. I'm safe!
http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/advice...wing-capacity/
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06 May 2015, 00:43
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That DVLA one's better than any of the other Gov sites I've seen esp with the 2013 changes.
(Don't forget that for us oldies with pre-'97 full car licences you should already have B+E on your licence)
The GOV.UK site seems a lot clearer than it was before:
https://www.gov.uk/towing-with-car
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06 May 2015, 06:33
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To me it's still slightly unclear I may be very thick but hey ho rather get it clarified; I passed my test 2012 so come into the middle bracket, do I need to worry about the GVW or do I just need to make sure the trailer is no heavier than the unladen weight of car? This is what the information on the DVLA link seems to imply? or do I need to ensure that the MAM of trailer and the GVW do not exceed 3500kg?
Ahhhhhhhhhhhh!
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06 May 2015, 06:50
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So the freelander has a GVW of 2505! Think that's out me capacity, now do I potentially take a smaller rib down to salcombe for a week, or do I brave it and go Poole to Salcombe by sea?! If anyone wants to make a trip of it I would be heading down fingers crossed friday 29th may!
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06 May 2015, 22:02
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You might be alright,
what are the weights on the Freelander's VIN plate and is the trailer's MAM exactly 1500kg?
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06 May 2015, 22:10
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He's not if that's the GVW. 2505+1500 is more than 3500. It's that simple.
It'd be a better idea to see if you can borrow a car that can legally tow it.
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06 May 2015, 22:38
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Yes but if the trailer's MAM is 1400kg and the Freelander is 1425kg kerb weight/ 1960kg GVW he'll be ok won't he?
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06 May 2015, 23:47
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hippyhunter
Yes but if the trailer's MAM is 1400kg and the Freelander is 1425kg kerb weight/ 1960kg GVW he'll be ok won't he?
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He's just quoted the GVW of the Freelander at 2505kg. That only leaves him 995kg for the trailer before he hits the 3500kg limit.
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