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17 May 2008, 15:59
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DeGraaff flushing kit
Can anyone post a picture of their De Graaff flushing set-up
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17 May 2008, 18:44
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I have a De Graaff trailer but it's not to hand to take a picture at the moment. De Graaff have a hole drilled straight through the wheel and the front of the drum (about 3/4 inch diameter), so you just hold a a hose against the hole and flood the inside of the drum with water. It's a new trailer so I do not know how effective this arrangement is, but you can certainly get a lot of water in there!
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17 May 2008, 20:03
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Originally Posted by Hightower
Can anyone post a picture of their De Graaff flushing set-up
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Here mine, (De Graaff )the white fitting looks like your typical plumbers connection from the inside,I've often thought if you could fit a hose lock connection here, the pressure could be turned up. (better a horse pi** than a poodle pi**)
I always try to move the trailer a few feet per side with the connection in place, as I'm not convinced all of the drum/shoes area is getting rinsed when it's stationary.
the green pipe is the water hose in the second pic
Sorry about the orientation of the pics, you'll just need to do a flag to view them...
Hope it helps.
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17 May 2008, 20:55
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The flushing arrangements are a bit primitive, it is just a hole drilled through the wheel.
The main advantage is that the "kit" includes a set of stainless brake lines fitted instead of the usual materials.
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17 May 2008, 22:19
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Thanks for your replys.
Arthur said he'd fitted a flushing kit as well as bearing savers when he phoned last week to tell me the trailer was finished. I think we'd got wires crossed up a little as I never ordered the trailer with these things, but did make enquirys. He removed them before I collected today.
I knew about the 3/4" hole in the hubs and he said that all was needed was to drill a coresponding hole in the wheel and use a hose to flush out the hub this way. No problem I thought, I could do this myself. The price he quoted wasn't in keeping with the work I thought he was going to do (drill two holes).
So is there more to the kit? What of these cables, I thought the original fit ones were stainless anyway?
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19 May 2008, 09:54
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There is nothing more to the De Graaff 'flushing kit' than the hole drilled through the front of the wheel and hub. I agree it is a bit primitive but I expect also very effective, because you can rotate the wheel to ensure everything inside the hub is thoroughly washed out. As far as I know, De Graaff use stainless brake cables as standard (that's what I was told when I ordered my trailer in Feb of this year).
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19 May 2008, 19:40
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I knew about the holes as mine has them in, however when I spoke to him early last week he said he'd fitted the flushing kit. But as hadn't ordered it he was going to remove it. So I figured he was removing hoses etc.
As for the flushing of the hubs, I was going to make a lance with many small holes around a circumferance that I can insert into the hole.
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19 May 2008, 20:32
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I now can't remember as the trailer was actually ordered beofre Xmas but are the bearing savers not part of the flushing kit too? I certainly have them fitted and they are not listed seperately on the order. I seem to remember them also being included as part of the flush kit although I could be wrong.
I was ceratinly told on order that the brake cables were ugraded to stainless as part of the flush kit as it came up again when I upgraded the kit later to twin axle.
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19 May 2008, 22:45
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I was quote £80ish (memory ) quid for the flush kit and about £40 for the bearing savers.
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20 May 2008, 09:36
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I'm pretty sure I ordered the 'hub flush' feature and bearing savers separately on my trailer. I can't remember how much each of them were, but I'm glad I went for both. I remember thinking they were a bit pricey, but worth it to protect those precious hubs and bearings!
Andy your lance sounds like a good idea. Could you please post a pic when completed?
David
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20 May 2008, 18:54
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Turned one up today with a single row of holes, just tried it and sprayed water all over the place including my trousers, so it works fine. I might make another two, a bit longer so that it goes deeper into the hub and drill 3 sets of holes down the shaft, connect them both to hoses and a quick connector and I can flush the hubs for 15 mins whilst I drink a cupper or slurp a beer
Yes I'll post a pic when finished.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by IBWET
Here mine, (De Graaff )the white fitting looks like your typical plumbers connection from the inside,I've often thought if you could fit a hose lock connection here, the pressure could be turned up. (better a horse pi** than a poodle pi**)
I always try to move the trailer a few feet per side with the connection in place, as I'm not convinced all of the drum/shoes area is getting rinsed when it's stationary.
the green pipe is the water hose in the second pic
Sorry about the orientation of the pics, you'll just need to do a flag to view them...
Hope it helps.
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Please disregard, just noticed the words "dixon bates" on my trailer..
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26 May 2008, 16:31
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This is what I made for the De Graaff flushing kit for my trailer. It will consist of two stainless 316 spray bars that have 4 sets of 12 holes at the end. What I'll do is to connect this to two lengths of hose which will be connected by a T piece with the third hosetail getting connected to the hose via a quick connector.
Just pop the spray rails in the hose and connect up and go for my Cuppa or Beer.
Just have to remember to remove them from the hubs before you move the trailer.
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I may have to try knocking one of those up myself for my new degraaff! Did you paint the hubs/drums yourself Hightower? I want to do mine but am wondering if the drum will get too hot for Hammerite. What did you use?
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02 June 2008, 23:33
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hightower
This is what I made for the De Graaff flushing kit for my trailer. It will consist of two stainless 316 spray bars that have 4 sets of 12 holes at the end. What I'll do is to connect this to two lengths of hose which will be connected by a T piece with the third hosetail getting connected to the hose via a quick connector.
Just pop the spray rails in the hose and connect up and go for my Cuppa or Beer.
Just have to remember to remove them from the hubs before you move the trailer.
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Andy, you will have to trade in those jesus creepers for something more modern!!!
perhaps you could market your item on the web as a "douch"
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03 June 2008, 00:29
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They don't belong to me Chris
I was Hosting some Germans the other weekend and got some help from the Bus driver, he was a diamond guy and helped me rebuild the old trailer the day before I sold it. I told him he would have to earn his Bed and Board
This is a pic of Hans and the Girls whilst I was Mackerel fishing.
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They don't belong to me Chris
I was Hosting some Germans the other weekend and got some help from the Bus driver, he was a diamond guy and helped me rebuild the old trailer the day before I sold it. I told him he would have to earn his Bed and Board
This is a pic of Hans and the Girls whilst I was Mackerel fishing.
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trouble is with mackeral is it does make your fingers smell.
why has that girl on the right got a funny head band on?
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03 June 2008, 19:27
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Originally Posted by Hugh Jardon
trouble is with mackeral is it does make your fingers smell.
why has that girl on the right got a funny head band on?
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She needed that Titanium neck brace because of the poor helmsmanship
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18 June 2008, 12:57
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Our resident club plumber knocked up a flushing kit for our Avonride hubs very cheaply the trailer manufacturers are putting on quite a mark up for standard hoepipe fittings etc.
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