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06 June 2017, 14:37
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Town: London
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Disco 3 Replacement - IDEAS???
I have a 2009 Discovery 3 which have had since new and only has 55K on the clock.
Its a great car, but its heavy. I use it on the beach to pull my RIB out of the water which weights 1600Kg when on its trailer. With the combined weight of the rig, the Discovery struggles with the gradient and the soft sand. Quite often end up with wheels spinning despite the General Grabber AT tyres. Would be better if the Disco had a diffs, but cannot be retrofitted AFAIK.
So after ideas for a replacement.
Ideally something a bit lighter, good road manners, and options of diff locks. Land Cruiser?
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06 June 2017, 16:49
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06 June 2017, 20:56
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Town: Liverpool
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Depends on your budget I suppose but a newer landrover with all terrain progress control would solve all your woes. If you're looking for something similar to the D3 money wise that's better then you might struggle. You are using the terrain settings I guess?
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06 June 2017, 21:15
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Country: UK - England
Town: Wakefield
Boat name: Bouncer
Make: Redbay Stormforce
Length: 6m +
Engine: 2x Honda 100 Hp
MMSI: 235025718
Join Date: Jun 2009
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Originally Posted by mikew4
I have a 2009 Discovery 3 which have had since new and only has 55K on the clock.
Its a great car, but its heavy. I use it on the beach to pull my RIB out of the water which weights 1600Kg when on its trailer. With the combined weight of the rig, the Discovery struggles with the gradient and the soft sand. Quite often end up with wheels spinning despite the General Grabber AT tyres. Would be better if the Disco had a diffs, but cannot be retrofitted AFAIK.
So after ideas for a replacement.
Ideally something a bit lighter, good road manners, and options of diff locks. Land Cruiser?
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Let your tyres down to 10 to 12 psi makes a big difference on sand
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07 June 2017, 12:25
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Yes letting tyres down will work but then you have a pain in the butt job of pumping them up. A lot for a short tow off the beach.
Ideally after something lighter as the Disco is fundamentally flawed down to its big arse weight. I actually quite like the look of the VW Amarok....
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07 June 2017, 12:58
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Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
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Engine: DF140a
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mikew4
Yes letting tyres down will work but then you have a pain in the butt job of pumping them up. A lot for a short tow off the beach.
Ideally after something lighter as the Disco is fundamentally flawed down to its big arse weight. I actually quite like the look of the VW Amarok....
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There's a 3l V6 Amarok on its way
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07 June 2017, 12:59
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Country: UK - England
Town: Whitehaven
Boat name: Cerberus
Make: Destroyer 5.8
Length: 5m +
Engine: 115hp Merc 4st
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Originally Posted by mikew4
I actually quite like the look of the VW Amarok....
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We have an Amarok V6 224bhp Highline auto with a few extras on it. It is a phenomenal truck! We got it about 6 weeks ago after the Navara turned to dust from the inside out. The engine is incredible and just pulls from any speed. we have surprised (and annoyed) many high spec cars by leaving them for dust off of roundabouts. The gearbox is slick to say the least and provides very smooth changes. The autos have permanent 4Motion, which should fix your wheel spin issues although you can still spec the diff lock (we didn't). Towing capacity if 3000kg, so ample, and you can pull that with 1000kg in the bed too. The ride is very good for a pickup though isn't quite car like, as it is still on leaf springs. It's far from uncomfortable though.
Interior wise, it still has commercial roots (e.g. hard plastics) but the dash is ergonomic and well laid out, the info/nav system is pretty intuitive and very functional (we spec'd the top of the range stereo/nav option) and the leather seats are high quality, very comfortable and look fab.
We're really pleased with it and grin from ear to ear whenever we drive it.
Phil
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07 June 2017, 13:02
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Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
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Originally Posted by Pikey Dave
There's a 3l V6 Amarok on its way
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I stand corrected, it's already here[emoji106]
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07 June 2017, 15:40
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Town: Wild West
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Land Cruiser gets my vote
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07 June 2017, 18:45
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Country: UK - England
Town: Ashton-under-Lyne Lancs
Boat name: IMOGEN
Make: Air-Craft 5.4
Length: 5m +
Engine: Suzuki df70a
MMSI: 235087492
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Quote:
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Land Cruiser gets my vote
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And mine [emoji106] or L200 Barbarian [emoji106] [emoji12]
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07 June 2017, 20:53
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Town: Cardiff
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07 June 2017, 21:33
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Town: Southwest Colorado
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Engine: Evinrude 6hp 2 smoke
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Shame they don't sell Chevrolet Silverado's in the UK.
This is a pic of mine from 3 years ago, the day I brought it home from the dealer...
Proper full-size 4x4 pickup rated for 6650 lbs. trailer weight. Cargo bed rated for 1600 lbs. Locking diff's, 3.43 rear axle, towing mode for higher transmission shift points, and traction control. And very good fuel economy with the standard 4.3L Ecotech V-6, putting out 285 BHP and 305 lb.ft torque... I get 20 MPG city, and 24 MPG highway.
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07 June 2017, 21:36
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rover310
And very good fuel economy..
I get 20 MPG city, and 24 MPG highway.
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Your opinion of "good" is different to mine!!!
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07 June 2017, 21:54
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Town: Southwest Colorado
Make: Avon Rover 310 Aero
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Engine: Evinrude 6hp 2 smoke
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For a full sized truck capable of hauling the weight, it is "good". Of course our current $2.39/gal gasoline prices make operating it affordable. That, and it's not my daily driver, more of a weekend work/play vehicle.
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07 June 2017, 22:19
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Country: UK - England
Town: Waterlooville
Boat name: Tickler
Make: Halmatic P22
Length: 6m +
Engine: Inboard Diesel 240HP
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I don't have one but for a lightweight 4x4...
Skoda Yeti
Kerb Weight 1530kg vs 2150kg for an Amarok and 2500kg for a Disco.
Towing Capacity 2000kg
No low range though.
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07 June 2017, 22:39
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Town: teesside
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pikey Dave
There's a 3l V6 Amarok on its way
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is it an evolution of the touareg 3.0tdi ?
I had one and thought the engine was a peach
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08 June 2017, 10:00
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: DF140a
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Quote:
Originally Posted by beerbelly
is it an evolution of the touareg 3.0tdi ?
I had one and thought the engine was a peach
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Dunno which engine it is, I was in the VW commercial dealer a few months back & they told me it was due. I did ask if there were plans for a 3l V6 T6 Transporter[emoji12]
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08 June 2017, 18:45
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Town: Leicester
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Interesting thread from people that use 4x4s in real sand, note the comments about DSC
DISCO3.CO.UK - View topic - dune bashing in a LR3 V6 auto
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08 June 2017, 21:36
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Town: Whitehaven
Boat name: Cerberus
Make: Destroyer 5.8
Length: 5m +
Engine: 115hp Merc 4st
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Quote:
Originally Posted by beerbelly
is it an evolution of the touareg 3.0tdi ?
I had one and thought the engine was a peach
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Yes it is. Same gearbox too.
As for a Silverado? It'd be fine till it got wedged in a small village . Those things are hugh!
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09 June 2017, 00:37
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: West Midlands
Boat name: Freespirit
Make: Redbay
Length: 6m +
Engine: Suzuki DF 140
Join Date: Apr 2013
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How about an LR 4, I had one whilst my previous car an Evoque was in the dealer for some work, it pulled our boat really well and was awesome on the sand, in my opinion unstoppable, or the ultimate Nissan Patrol lwb.
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