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18 February 2014, 12:59
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Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Glasgow
Boat name: Aquila
Make: Ribtec
Length: 5m +
Engine: Outboard
Join Date: Feb 2014
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Disturbing markings
Last season the strop on my winch broke on the final recovery, just in time some might say. Last weekend I finally got a look at it and decided that the winch assembly was due for renewal and decided to remove and replace the whole unit. On removal, I was examing the makers marks and noted that it was rated to 2500lbs , made in Nebraska USA and somewhat disturbingly, apparantly, according to the spec, NOT FOR MOVING HUMANS!!!!
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18 February 2014, 13:31
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Country: UK - England
Town: Southampton
Make: Ballistic
Length: 7m +
Engine: Yam 225
Join Date: Jun 2010
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litigation these daysi bet they are just covering the proverbial ass
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18 February 2014, 13:34
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Glasgow
Boat name: Aquila
Make: Ribtec
Length: 5m +
Engine: Outboard
Join Date: Feb 2014
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there goes that new business venture then.....
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18 February 2014, 16:32
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Country: USA
Town: Seattle
Boat name: Water Dog
Make: Polaris
Length: 4m +
Engine: Yamaha 60hp
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 1,152
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Propwash
NOT FOR MOVING HUMANS!!!!
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They all say that. Presumably you are moving a boat instead
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18 February 2014, 16:55
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Country: USA
Town: Oakland CA
Length: 3m +
Join Date: Feb 2005
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Don't know about the Nebraska part, but the "Not for moving humans" thing is a standard disclaimer here in the US. We have certifying agencies for webbing products that are used for lifting people; the disclaimer [theoretically] prevents lawsuits from those misusing products (i.e. winching a person up using a boat winch.) Doesn't mean it won't do it, just that the manufacturer isn't liable if it happens to fail while you are attempting to.
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18 February 2014, 17:41
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Wakefield
Boat name: Bouncer
Make: Redbay Stormforce
Length: 6m +
Engine: 2x Honda 100 Hp
MMSI: 235025718
Join Date: Jun 2009
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On a similar note have a look at your road tyres mine are 265/75/16 and it says only to be fitted on 16 " rims
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18 February 2014, 17:46
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Country: UK - England
Town: Southampton
Boat name: Kick'em Jenny
Make: Brig Navigator 570
Length: 5m +
Engine: Etec 90
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 69
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Same here in the EU. Lifting equipment for lifting people has very different safety margins and rules under LOLER. Most industrial lifting and winching kit then has something similar on it (or in its certs/paperwork) to get them out of needing to comply with the more strenous stuff.
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18 February 2014, 18:31
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Country: UK - England
Town: Hampshire
Boat name: Altea 2
Make: Narwhal
Length: 5m +
Engine: 90 Mariner
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 855
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Yup, that's normal Panic ye not!
Your winch is likely made by Fulton or Dutton-Lainson. They're the most common boat trailer winches in the UK and both are manufactured in the US, hence the rating in pounds and the disclaimer.
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18 February 2014, 20:14
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Chorley / Holyhead
Boat name: Northwind Challenger
Make: Tornado
Length: 6m +
Engine: Mariner 115 efi CT
MMSI: 235080598
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 1,411
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slightly different note, i had an icom m31 (i think) which had a plate on it saying not intended for distress and safety purposes - even though the instructions gave clear details about making a mayday call!
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19 February 2014, 09:24
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Boat name: Wildheart
Make: Humber/Delta Seasafe
Length: 5m +
Engine: Merc 60 Clamshell
MMSI: 235068449
Join Date: Apr 2007
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and watch out - that packet of dry roasted peanuts you are eating may contain nuts.....
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01 March 2014, 22:23
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Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: DF140a
MMSI: 235111389
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 12,167
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 9D280
and watch out - that packet of dry roasted peanuts you are eating may contain nuts.....
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.....& whatever you do, don't dry the dog in the microwave
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02 March 2014, 00:34
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Country: USA
Town: Oakland CA
Length: 3m +
Join Date: Feb 2005
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I did see a Russian can of sardines that had the warning "May contain fish". Raises the question of what's in there if it doesn't contain fish...
jky
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02 March 2014, 00:40
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Country: UK - England
Town: Newcastle
Boat name: Merlin
Make: RB4 Gemini 550
Length: 4m +
Engine: Tohatsu 90C
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 1,080
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chicken 'o the sea perhaps
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02 March 2014, 14:47
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Country: UK - Wales
Town: Here
Boat name: doggypaddle
Make: Avon 5.4 Searider
Length: 5m +
Engine: yamaha 80
Join Date: Jul 2007
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Originally Posted by mick
On a similar note have a look at your road tyres mine are 265/75/16 and it says only to be fitted on 16 " rims
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That's cos there are 16.5 inch rims as well in the USA and some nobburs think you can force a 16 onto a 16,5 inch rim.
I used to trial a land rover with 10.50-16.5-LT Goodyear xtra grips on 16 inch rims if you gave it too much welly the wheels would spin in the tyre and the valve stem would vanish
they never came off the rims though.
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03 March 2014, 02:33
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Country: USA
Town: Oakland CA
Length: 3m +
Join Date: Feb 2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by doggypaddle
I used to trial a land rover with 10.50-16.5-LT Goodyear xtra grips on 16 inch rims if you gave it too much welly the wheels would spin in the tyre and the valve stem would vanish
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Inner tubes under, I assume?
jky
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03 March 2014, 08:11
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Country: UK - England
Town: Margate / Ramsgate
Boat name: Bumbl
Make: Scorpion
Length: 8m +
Engine: Yanmar diesel
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 2,837
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Festinghouse
slightly different note, i had an icom m31 (i think) which had a plate on it saying not intended for distress and safety purposes - even though the instructions gave clear details about making a mayday call!
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That's a querk of GMDSS where commercial vessels are required to have both IMO approved (wheel marked) DSC fixed set(s) and (yellow) gmdss approved wheel marked hand helds.
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03 March 2014, 08:20
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Country: UK - England
Town: Margate / Ramsgate
Boat name: Bumbl
Make: Scorpion
Length: 8m +
Engine: Yanmar diesel
Join Date: Feb 2002
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Someone from big ships might come along and tell us at what size these requirements come into force as a coded rib doesn't need this kit and a class D DSC set is adequate.
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03 March 2014, 10:43
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Country: UK - England
Town: Southampton
Boat name: Yarhoo
Make: Scorpion
Length: 6m +
Engine: Suzuki 150
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 418
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To vessels over 300grt engaged on international voyages.
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03 March 2014, 12:14
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Member
Country: UK - England
Boat name: llyn raider
Make: xs
Length: 7m +
Engine: 1 200hp merc
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 211
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Just like all the blocks on a yacht are marked "not for human suspension" Ever been up a yacht mast?
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03 March 2014, 16:34
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Member
Country: USA
Town: Seattle
Boat name: Water Dog
Make: Polaris
Length: 4m +
Engine: Yamaha 60hp
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 1,152
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Quote:
Originally Posted by andyxs
Just like all the blocks on a yacht are marked "not for human suspension" Ever been up a yacht mast?
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Hell no that's for crazy people who want to spend tons of money going slow.
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