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18 February 2011, 12:51
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Country: Ireland
Town: Dublin, Ireland
Boat name: Voodoo1
Make: Piranha
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Electric winch for winching trailer up the slip!
Hi guys.. I know there are a few threads on winches etc but I said I'd start a newer Up to date one, just wondering has anyone got a electric winch for the towbar to pull the boa and trailer up the slipway? I see a few on the Market with a little mount plate that you can slip over the tow ball, plug into the 12v socket and winch it up.. Does anyone have actually use this system or any other suggestions? The slip way is about 40ft to the water edge at high tide..
Cheers..
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19 February 2011, 20:13
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Country: Other
Town: Stanley, Falkland Is
Boat name: Seawolf
Make: Osprey Vipermax 5.8
Length: 5m +
Engine: Etec 150
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I have a suggestion which is a general rule rather than about any one product: if you want to pull something 40ft, go for a capacity of 2 or 3 times what you think the max load will be.
Check out www.goodwinch.com for their towball winch, I've not used one but it would probably be a good bet as David's stuff is usually decent and does what it says it will. The 99p on Ebay specials are probably worth every penny...
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19 February 2011, 22:10
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Country: Ireland
Town: Dublin, Ireland
Boat name: Voodoo1
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Ah that's fantastic, just checked out that site and it looks exactly what I'm looking for.. They have a winch in a box complete with all the attachments for the towball ready to go!
Good advice on the weight too, I had a similar figure or 2 to 3 times in my mind too.. Ts a safer bet too getting the next size up..
Thanks again
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20 February 2011, 00:44
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Town: Stanley, Falkland Is
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Talk to David (owner of Goodwinch) about the weight of the boat, gradient and distance before you order it - he's been winching stuff around for decades so will have a pretty good idea whether it will do the job or not.
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20 February 2011, 22:27
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Country: UK - England
Town: Dorset
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Alternatively attach a Passat 4motion our Audi quattro to the towbar. Galvanised chassis. 4 wheel drive.
Lack decent ground clearance but tow well, economical and never struggle with grip...
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21 February 2011, 00:39
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Town: Stanley, Falkland Is
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Not seen too many vehicles with galvanised brakes though...
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21 February 2011, 08:25
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Country: Ireland
Town: Dublin, Ireland
Boat name: Voodoo1
Make: Piranha
Length: 5m +
Engine: new Suzuki DF90
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Quote:
Originally Posted by diver 1
Alternatively attach a Passat 4motion our Audi quattro to the towbar. Galvanised chassis. 4 wheel drive.
Lack decent ground clearance but tow well, economical and never struggle with grip...
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I've got an awd diesel Subaru legacy, she'll tow 2 ton no probs and she's very economical.. But it's just with no low box in it, it's a lot of pressure on the clutch moving off on a slip way with a ton behind you.. The slipway that I use seems to be a little steeper than most others around..hence I thought the winch job would save some hassle( and maybe the cost of a new clutch!)
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11 January 2012, 10:48
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Country: UK - N Ireland
Length: 7m +
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we are looking an electric winch to attach to the boat trailer for towing a 6.8m rib on to the trailer. the boat weighs 2200kg. any suggestions???
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11 January 2012, 12:40
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Town: Breda
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I use the Power Winch 712 every weekend and for many years. Never had any problem. Had to make some alterations to the trailer and car for the power suply.
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11 January 2012, 12:42
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Country: Ireland
Town: Bangor
Boat name: Lencraft 4.8m
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Length: 4m +
Engine: DT55HP Suzuki
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Originally Posted by piranha580
I've got an awd diesel Subaru legacy, she'll tow 2 ton no probs and she's very economical.. But it's just with no low box in it, it's a lot of pressure on the clutch moving off on a slip way with a ton behind you.. The slipway that I use seems to be a little steeper than most others around..hence I thought the winch job would save some hassle( and maybe the cost of a new clutch!)
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keep an eye on the clutch, I have one and it needed a new clutch* at 30,000 miles and I was not towing a boat at that stage. seems to be a lot of issues with them but great car otherwise!
*done under warranty
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11 January 2012, 13:24
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thanks for that, powerwinch looks good, i like the RC30 ! are they expensive???
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11 January 2012, 16:14
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thanks for that, powerwinch looks good, i like the RC30 ! are they expensive???
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Yes Power Winches are expensive but the only good ones. The cheap lookalikes are no good at all.
My advise: get one with a strap instead of a cable. The cable doesn't wind up that nice and gets stuck when you try to get is out of the winch.
Connect the electric wire directly to the battery of the car and use the wire and fuse that come with it. It takes an awful lot of current and cigaret lighters with their thin wires are no use.
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11 January 2012, 16:30
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Power Winch sells bolts to get the winch on and off the trailer. Here's a pic to show the modifications of the trailer.
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11 January 2012, 18:11
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Cheers guys ! Do you know any dealers in the UK where we could get one ???
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11 January 2012, 19:55
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Town: Wakefield
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Make: Redbay Stormforce
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I would suggest fitting some Anderson connecters either at front or back of car with an isolation switch with some decent cable as well if you go on to a 4x4 site you can get the cables made up when you have worked the length out the winch works best on the 1 st couple of runs on the drum
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14 January 2012, 13:38
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Town: Aberdeenshire
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Length: 4m +
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Quote:
Originally Posted by diver 1
Alternatively attach a Passat 4motion our Audi quattro to the towbar. Galvanised chassis. 4 wheel drive.
Lack decent ground clearance but tow well, economical and never struggle with grip...
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+1 (Audi B5 2.5 TDI quattro sport avant) aka Amtrak locomotive.
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Not seen too many vehicles with galvanised brakes though...
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Don't dip em in the briney! If it's a shallow gradient, I usually unhitch and rope in... however I'm only launching a 4.8m!
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14 January 2012, 14:36
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Country: Ireland
Town: Dublin, Ireland
Boat name: Voodoo1
Make: Piranha
Length: 5m +
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Hey guys haven't been on in a while.. But further to this discussion about the winches.. Goodwinch do a decent system.. The website is pretty good there too.. I'm trying to ship one to Ireland but it should work out much cheaper for you guys in the UK!
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16 March 2014, 12:37
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Country: UK - England
Town: East
Boat name: Seaflyer
Make: Humber
Length: 6m +
Engine: Evinrude
Join Date: Feb 2014
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Hi,
I am thinking of getting a 12v electric winch to pull the boat back on to the trailer. I have seen that many types and read so much about the good and bad it seems to be a mine field!
I have a 6.5 mtr Humber destroyer with a 150 on the back to pull on to a roller trailer, am I right in thinking if I get a powerful winch because it is only pulling say a third of its capacity it will pull the boat up at a reasonable speed and not buckle the battery plates or do I just need a 2000Kg winch?
Oh as any one seen these on eBay 130873606004 they also do one with a compressor instead or is this going way overboard.
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16 March 2014, 14:42
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Country: UK - England
Town: Wirral & Caernarfon
Boat name: That's Enuff
Make: Revenger & Avon SR4
Length: 7m +
Engine: Honda 150HP & 50HP
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Originally Posted by Seaflyer02
Hi,
I am thinking of getting a 12v electric winch to pull the boat back on to the trailer. I have seen that many types and read so much about the good and bad it seems to be a mine field!
I have a 6.5 mtr Humber destroyer with a 150 on the back to pull on to a roller trailer, am I right in thinking if I get a powerful winch because it is only pulling say a third of its capacity it will pull the boat up at a reasonable speed and not buckle the battery plates or do I just need a 2000Kg winch?
Oh as any one seen these on eBay 130873606004 they also do one with a compressor instead or is this going way overboard.
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if I was you I'd spend my money making sure all the rollers etc and manual winch are working properly, electric winches don't like salty water unless you are willing to spend more dosh and go for the supposed waterproof winches, like the goldfish, but then you still need to get a reliable 12v supply to the winch will be able to cope with the winch loads, I'd be keeping it simple, we can manage our 23ft rib with a 150 Honda with a manual winch when we need to
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16 March 2014, 18:27
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Country: UK - England
Town: East
Boat name: Seaflyer
Make: Humber
Length: 6m +
Engine: Evinrude
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I am usually all for keeping it simple but I do like the option of making life easier if possible. I have had my set up for a few years now and managed quite well with the manual winch, but where I intend launching in the future should mean the tyres and the back cradle/rollers will be the only thing getting wet. This is why I was looking at the option of a electric winch.
Just spent a load sorting the trailer - new axle, hitch, roller brackets etc. etc. so there is no issue with the friction of the rollers.
Thanks for the comments.
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