Euro Trailer?

[Paul Cannell]

I would tighten the bolts on the rear guide rollers, if they move you may bend or break the arm with the boats transom when launching.

[bingomike]

Originally Posted by Kernow

well went and ordered one and now delivered, Gullwing very much looking for feedback on this (hence I got a price!)
Spec is 1500kg, braked, 40 'wobble' rollers, hub flush, 'roller ramp', extending drawbar. Sealed bearings (which almost put me off completely but they've given me a full 5 (yes 5) year warranty on, time will tell!
Haven't got it wet yet so intend tying those brake lines up so they dont hold water, greasing the exposed brake cables and wheel studs if they're not done. Anything else?

Well ive gone an ordered one now, slightly longer to accomodate utilising it at a later date for bigger boat. Should be here in couple of weeks or so..

Bob is a great help and full of information, long phone calls but got details settled in the end..

Mike

P.S Do we start an 'Alli trailer' club now!! LOL

[Kernow Buoy]

Originally Posted by bingomike

Well ive gone an ordered one now, slightly longer to accomodate utilising it at a later date for bigger boat. Should be here in couple of weeks or so..

Bob is a great help and full of information, long phone calls but got details settled in the end..

Mike

P.S Do we start an 'Alli trailer' club now!! LOL

Could do but I might get black balled from the ebay blue cover club!

Well done Mike, hope you'll be pleased, Bob can't half natter can't he! Nice guy though. Managed to get the boat on at the weekend, pleased with the way it went, I've got to move the rollers to avoid all the chines but the boat was definately easier to winch on (so my son said) the rib came on and immediately forwards rather than being lifted up then up again and then down and on as my swing beam trailer used to do. Very happy with the way the hull is supported all the way along too.

[bingomike]

Originally Posted by Kernow

Could do but I might get black balled from the ebay blue cover club!

Well done Mike, hope you'll be pleased, Bob can't half natter can't he! Nice guy though. Managed to get the boat on at the weekend, pleased with the way it went, I've got to move the rollers to avoid all the chines but the boat was definately easier to winch on (so my son said) the rib came on and immediately forwards rather than being lifted up then up again and then down and on as my swing beam trailer used to do. Very happy with the way the hull is supported all the way along too.

Looks good, Cant wait for mine.. Did Bob offer you the LED lights? They sound good, but wasnt sure how it all goes together, probably obvious when trailer comes.

You going to adjust rollers with boat on or keep taking on/off adjusting as you go along till you feel its right? Let me know how you get on, might save me some hastle LOL

Knot Yet might want to organise a bulk purchase, so we can start a club LOL

[Mollers]

Originally Posted by bingomike

Do we start an 'Alli trailer' club now!! LOL

'Euro Trailer Trash' is quite catchy.

[bedajim]

Originally Posted by Mollers

'Euro Trailer Trash' is quite catchy.

They'll leave kernow's rib and just weigh the trailer in

[Mollers]

Originally Posted by bedajim

They'll leave kernow's rib and just weigh the trailer in

Don't forget the 199kg of Ally bolted on the back.

[Kernow Buoy]

Oi!
Less abuse please, 'specially from 2 members of the stripey tubed cloned cobra club!

[Paul Beaurain]

Fantastic to see some design now being aimed at this market.
The two types of ally trailer look great.
Kernow whose brakes are they using on the Gullwing?
Your boat looks very comforatable on there.
So we can see how much weight saving is achieved (by using alloy) on the trailer chassis plate what is the empty trailer weight and what is its gross weight?
With no centre keel rollers there is a lot of force trying to split or seperate the roller beds.
When first bringing the rib onto the trailer how close was the bow/keel leading edge to the first cross beam?
I am looking for a trailer at 3500KG with the max boat capacity. This will avoid empying fuel tanks to get down to weight...
thanks
paul

[Kernow Buoy]

Originally Posted by Paul Beaurain

Fantastic to see some design now being aimed at this market.
The two types of ally trailer look great.
Kernow whose brakes are they using on the Gullwing?
Your boat looks very comforatable on there.
So we can see how much weight saving is achieved (by using alloy) on the trailer chassis plate what is the empty trailer weight and what is its gross weight?
With no centre keel rollers there is a lot of force trying to split or seperate the roller beds.
When first bringing the rib onto the trailer how close was the bow/keel leading edge to the first cross beam?
I am looking for a trailer at 3500KG with the max boat capacity. This will avoid empying fuel tanks to get down to weight...
thanks
paul

Hi Paul
Gullwing use knott-Avonride brakes.
Trailer gross is 1500kg
Unladen 250 KG (230 actual weight) My old Indespension is 1600 and 400, Gullwing estimate roughly a 45% weight saving.
Take your point re keel rollers being forced apart but there are 6 supports for the roller beds, Gullwing have offered keel rollers especially on rear crossbeam if I think necessary. I adjusted the rollers along similar lines to my Indespension and managed about a 2" clearance, that was fine but I've got chines taking the weight so will need to adjust out and then up hopefully to give same clearance. If thats a problem I can move the roller bed backwards in relation to the rear cross member so the rear rollers will lift the bow sooner.
Couple of pic's that Gullwing sent me before I purchased

[bingomike]

Originally Posted by Paul Beaurain

Fantastic to see some design now being aimed at this market.
The two types of ally trailer look great.
Kernow whose brakes are they using on the Gullwing?
Your boat looks very comforatable on there.
So we can see how much weight saving is achieved (by using alloy) on the trailer chassis plate what is the empty trailer weight and what is its gross weight?
With no centre keel rollers there is a lot of force trying to split or seperate the roller beds.
When first bringing the rib onto the trailer how close was the bow/keel leading edge to the first cross beam?
I am looking for a trailer at 3500KG with the max boat capacity. This will avoid empying fuel tanks to get down to weight...
thanks
paul

The one I have ordered, has an extra keel roller on back. Also slightly longer than Jeffs, to double my capacity, all i need to do is add an extra axle-Chasis is the same as twin (all over kill on my part, but I am planing an upgrade in size in the future and may want to keep the trailer.

When I get it, will post picks.

Mike

P.S. Have attached pics I have been sent..

[bingomike]

and a couple more..

[willk]

So, Honourable Members of the Ally Euro Trailer Club (Euro-Trash), how did the season go with the new rigs? Any issues? Did they float off? Anything you would spec differently?

[C-NUMB]

Originally Posted by Paul Cannell

I would tighten the bolts on the rear guide rollers, if they move you may bend or break the arm with the boats transom when launching.

Slightly off topic, but how freely should the guide roller move?I have a used Hallmark rollercoaster trailer but no clue how tight the bolts should be in various rollers?
Should they all be tighten ones the boat is placed in a good position on the trailer, or should they be left semi tight so the angel can vary pending on the boat position on trailer?
Thanks

[Rogue Wave]

they should be able to swivel with a small amount of pressure.
but
I don't like indispensions much but always seem to wind up with one,

Be careful of the split pins holding on the rollers to the axles. split The axles are oval in profile and the washers that are kept in place by the split pins have round holes. Eventually the space between the washer and the axle bends the split pins and the washers ride over the split pins and the rollers fall off. usually when you are recovering the boat and gouges your hull. Keep your eye on that

another thing I found was that the arms would sometime flip over when the boat was coming on to the rollers I used to tie a loop of bungie around the bottom axle and the trailer frame to stop this happening


back on Topic I do like those Gullwings
I

[bingomike]

Update on mine..

Finally took delivery of mine in Sept, due to them keep selling mine and me not being in a rush..

Works really well, Gullwing had set mine up pretty much before it arrived so only slight tinkering was needed.

No floating problems as yet..LOL

Boat drives on nice the rollers bring it nicely into line every time even with 6/8 knott tde trying to swing it.

On these trailers the rollers are held on by special plastic clips, havent managed to break any as yet...but a big bag of spares supplied with boat just in case!

absolutely no critism as yet, the only niggle i had was the connector on the trailer for the brake flush didnt match my hoselock connector on the flushing hose i use, soon sorrted though.

Willl post pics next time i launch/recover.

Mike

[willk]

Originally Posted by bingomike

Will post pics next time i launch/recover.

Mike

That would be interesting. These trailers are potentially useful for boaters like Paul who are at the max weight limits for towing and want to shave a couple of hundred of kilos off the Gross Weight.

[Barrowboy]

I'm considering buying a 1500kg braked trailer from Gullwing and now that a few months have passed I wondered whether Kernow Buoy and BingoMike are able to share their thoughts about life with their aluminium trailers; how have the rollers stood up, are the hubs still in good nick, any issues with the brakes, etc?

Similarly, if anyone else has bought a 1500kg braked trailer from Gullwing, I'd be interested to know about your experiences?

I also noted the thread started by SW Rib Charter back in March last year and wondered if anyone knew what facts had now emerged regarding the 'failure'?