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03 May 2014, 23:14
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Galvanized U Bolts
Can you get galvanzied u bolts for boat trailers as fed up of the Zinc ones rusting.
Done a quick internet search but can only spot stuff is the USA as usual.
Cheers
David
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03 May 2014, 23:18
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Have them galved yourself won't cost much you might have to run a die nut down the thread after
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04 May 2014, 06:21
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Davidgriffiths
Can you get galvanzied u bolts for boat trailers as fed up of the Zinc ones rusting.
Done a quick internet search but can only spot stuff is the USA as usual.
Cheers
David
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This works real well simple fix. And good similar colour match also changes once dipped in the wet stuff,, always used it and appears to,last,,
http://www.rocol.com/products/galva-...vanising-spray
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04 May 2014, 09:15
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04 May 2014, 09:59
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wrong shape and size for bolting trailers together
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04 May 2014, 11:49
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You wouldn't want to put those against your galvanised trailer chassis
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04 May 2014, 12:08
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You wouldn't want to put those against your galvanised trailer chassis ![nonono](https://www.rib.net/forum/images/smilies/nonono.gif)
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Yep no trailer left. SS is a gingery beast!
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04 May 2014, 18:07
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Lol stainless and galv. No no no
Galvanised steel is simply mild steel which has been dipped in zinc. Which again forms a protective non porrous barier to oxygen.
If the galvanised layer is broken or damaged corrosion will occur at a faster rate than normal due to galvanic action between the zinc and the mild steel in contact with oxygen.
Placing stainless steel in contact with galvanised steel will cause increased corrosion in the metal which is higher on the noble table of metals. The higher a metal is the more it will corrode in contact with a lower metal.
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04 May 2014, 18:32
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Davidgriffiths
Can you get galvanzied u bolts for boat trailers as fed up of the Zinc ones rusting.
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I think you are a bit confused
"Galvanizing is the process of applying a protective ZINC coating to steel".
Also the corrosion you are referring to is in fact due to "crevice corrosion".
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04 May 2014, 19:00
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*Shrugs* we can buy them easily here in the USA. West Marine stock them a couple of miles away from me. I usually buy from Amazon for half the price.
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04 May 2014, 20:45
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ribochet
I think you are a bit confused
"Galvanizing is the process of applying a protective ZINC coating to steel".
Also the corrosion you are referring to is in fact due to "crevice corrosion".
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Galvanising and BZP are both zinc.
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07 May 2014, 18:12
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I think the difference you're talking about is zinc coating (electroplating) vs hot dip galvanizing. Zinc plating puts a very thin, shiny layer of zinc over the steel. Hot dip galvanizing involves dipping the steel part in a molten zinc bath, which leaves a very thick, dull grey layer of zinc over the steel, which is much more corrosion resistant than plated. Downside to HDG is that the heating of the steel part during the bath means they are not strength graded (at least that's what I understand.)
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07 May 2014, 19:25
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Oh no
Well thanks for the replys
I am now wishing I had paid attention in Chemistry lessons as I ve already replaced all the standard bolts with stainless ones!
Might stick some nylon washers in to see if that slows down the dreaded corrosion process
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08 May 2014, 16:59
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Shouldn't get much galvanic action unless you routinely leave your trailer in seawater.
I have a fair amount of stainless hardware on my trailer (it would be all, but the stuff is pricey), and don't really worry about dissimilar metals causing a problem (and it hasn't yet.)
jky
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08 May 2014, 19:55
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jyasaki
Shouldn't get much galvanic action unless you routinely leave your trailer in seawater.
I have a fair amount of stainless hardware on my trailer (it would be all, but the stuff is pricey), and don't really worry about dissimilar metals causing a problem (and it hasn't yet.)
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+1 ![thumbs up](https://www.rib.net/forum/images/smilies/thumbs.gif) Dave, knowing how well you look after your kit I don't think you'll have any problems, as long as you give it all a good wash down after it's been in the salty stuff it'll outlast the standard u bolts etc
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08 May 2014, 22:39
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One thing not mentioned is different properties of stainless vs mild(galvanized).
Look at a SQL of a SS shackle, and compare it to a galvanized one, the SS shackle will have a lot lower SWL compared to a similar sized galvanized one.
I believe it is due to the SS work hardening, and having very little shear strength, but I will leave that to others to explain! As always you get many different grades of SS as you do Mild, or High Tensile steels.
Just something to think about if you are thinking of putting SS u bolts on!
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13 May 2014, 15:27
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I have got a Roller Rapide trailer and i want to replace all the bolts and C bolts on it as they are all rusted to hell. Although the rest of the trailer is mint, just the seawater has eaten all the fastners!
Strangely I am finding it quite difficult to find the correct size bolts i need. I guess with the C bolt as long as its wide enough it doesnt really matter if its a few mm larger, but i need the following, anyone got any sites they have used before.
1 x 50mm x 170mm
6 x 50mm x 110mm
5 x 40mm x 170mm
4 x 40mm x 110mm
Preferably stainless steel, galv or zinc plated.
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13 May 2014, 15:35
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These any good, they do a range
Boat Trailer - U-Bolt: 50mm x 100mm - RHS
I get mine from the local engeering supplies shop
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16 May 2014, 01:35
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Wooshing them with some WD40 only takes 5 minutes every so often and seems to keep most of the rust at bay.
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