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27 August 2023, 07:36
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If you tow with a Land Rover
If you tow with a Land Drover you will most likely have the transmission shudder and fluctuating rev counter at some point as it gets older. If you do this is a very effective, easy and cheap DIY fix. It transformed my Disco 3
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27 August 2023, 13:46
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It masked the symptoms on my Disco 3 for @6 months then suddenly it was a lot worse than before and I had to change the TC like I should have done in the first place.
I'd say it's a stop gap measure at the most.
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27 August 2023, 15:54
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nasher
It masked the symptoms on my Disco 3 for @6 months then suddenly it was a lot worse than before and I had to change the TC like I should have done in the first place.
I'd say it's a stop gap measure at the most.
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Why you got a further 6 months... That might be all some people need.
In my world simple fixes are generally the best
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27 August 2023, 16:44
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From the colour of that auto fluid drawn out a transmission oil change is well overdue. That's a better base maintenance position to be in than adding magic jollop to old dirty fluid.
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27 August 2023, 17:42
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Originally Posted by Fenlander
From the colour of that auto fluid drawn out a transmission oil change is well overdue. That's a better base maintenance position to be in than adding magic jollop to old dirty fluid.
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Yup for sure
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27 August 2023, 18:20
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Originally Posted by Fenlander
From the colour of that auto fluid drawn out a transmission oil change is well overdue. That's a better base maintenance position to be in than adding magic jollop to old dirty fluid.
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I totally disagree. I did this 1 day after I had the issue for about £15. I need the car to tow a long way in a week or less and I could not get booked in for several weeks. After a friends Uncle was Crushed to death under a Landy when the Air Suspension let go I aint gonna be crawling under there any time soon even with axel stands.
I am afraid I don't take an OCD approach to maintenance. I do what needs to be done in the real world.
Others are welcome of course to do it their way
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27 August 2023, 18:21
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Originally Posted by mick
Yup for sure
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27 August 2023, 19:25
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If you tow with a Land Rover
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Originally Posted by mick
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27 August 2023, 19:42
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Why you got a further 6 months... That might be all some people need.
In my world simple fixes are generally the best
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Is that before its sold on to someone else?
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27 August 2023, 19:53
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nasher
It masked the symptoms on my Disco 3 for @6 months then suddenly it was a lot worse than before and I had to change the TC like I should have done in the first place.
I'd say it's a stop gap measure at the most.
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Yep I agree By the time its started slipping like that all the magic potions & oil changes in the world arent going to prevent the inevitable need to change the torque converter in the near future [emoji106]
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27 August 2023, 19:55
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I think you lads are being a bit harsh, getting all "experienced mech" over a very simple fix.
FYI I had a badly worn tyre that sprang a leak on an old cut it had. I had a long tow the next day and seeing as how the aunt of a friend's husband was killed by a blow out in a tyre shop, I didn't risk the same and used a £15 can of tyre sealant. In my world, the simpleton simple fixes are often the best - you may express different opinions of you wish - but I'll laugh at you and insist I'm right to avoid maintenance - it saves me a mint that I can spend on cheap tat...
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27 August 2023, 20:12
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>> After a friends Uncle was Crushed to death under a Landy when the Air Suspension let go I aint gonna be crawling under there any time soon even with axel stands.
Round our way they have places called garages that will do such things for you. Preventative maintenance isn't OCD... just good sense.
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27 August 2023, 21:14
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28 August 2023, 16:54
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenlander
>> After a friends Uncle was Crushed to death under a Landy when the Air Suspension let go I aint gonna be crawling under there any time soon even with axel stands.
Round our way they have places called garages that will do such things for you. Preventative maintenance isn't OCD... just good sense.
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You obviously did not read my Post and haven't got it at all.
Arnt you the bloke that bought a perfectly good Yam 15 2 stroke and proceed to replace virtually everything. It ended up like Triggers Broom.
Preventative maintenance is in the most part an invention so that garages and other such institutions keep the money rolling in on a regular basis.
You do it your way I will do it mine. If you dont want to benefit from my post then thats fine by me
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28 August 2023, 16:55
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Originally Posted by willk
I think you lads are being a bit harsh, getting all "experienced mech" over a very simple fix.
FYI I had a badly worn tyre that sprang a leak on an old cut it had. I had a long tow the next day and seeing as how the aunt of a friend's husband was killed by a blow out in a tyre shop, I didn't risk the same and used a £15 can of tyre sealant. In my world, the simpleton simple fixes are often the best - you may express different opinions of you wish - but I'll laugh at you and insist I'm right to avoid maintenance - it saves me a mint that I can spend on cheap tat...
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28 August 2023, 16:56
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Is that before its sold on to someone else?
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That may be the sort of thing you might do it certainly is not what I would do. Perhaps read post 6 again
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28 August 2023, 16:57
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenlander
>> After a friends Uncle was Crushed to death under a Landy when the Air Suspension let go I aint gonna be crawling under there any time soon even with axel stands.
Round our way they have places called garages that will do such things for you. Preventative maintenance isn't OCD... just good sense.
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This is a prime example of where preventative maintenance might have saved him a big bill. Had the box been serviced then he probably wouldn't need a new torque converter, as it is waiting till there is a problem is too late to save the expense of a body off & gearbox out. Soon going to put a big dent in his wallet for the sake of saving on proper servicing. (Or unload it onto some poor unfortunate sole cos his magic potion has covered up the fault for a while)
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28 August 2023, 17:09
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This is a prime example of where preventative maintenance might have saved him a big bill. Had the box been serviced then he probably wouldn't need a new torque converter, as it is waiting till there is a problem is too late to save the expense of a body off & gearbox out. Soon going to put a big dent in his wallet for the sake of saving on proper servicing. (Or unload it onto some poor unfortunate sole cos his magic potion has covered up the fault for a while)
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I’m on my 3 Disco and never had an issue probably because I get the gearbox flushed every 30 k ish and the latest D4 8 speed gets a double flush as the plates can stick together.
Maybe I should start using Snake oil
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28 August 2023, 17:15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mick
I’m on my 3 Disco and never had an issue probably because I get the gearbox flushed every 30 k ish and the latest D4 8 speed gets a double flush as the plates can stick together.
Maybe I should start using Snake oil
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I've got the same zf8hp in my amarok & change the oil was the first thing I did when I bought it. Imho if changing the oil makes a difference to how the car drives its been left too long & damage is already done. Oil changes on modern boxes should be done before the performance deteriorates imho.
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28 August 2023, 17:41
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I've got the same zf8hp in my amarok & change the oil was the first thing I did when I bought it. Imho if changing the oil makes a difference to how the car drives its been left too long & damage is already done. Oil changes on modern boxes should be done before the performance deteriorates imho.
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