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30 March 2015, 12:45
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Town: Whitehaven
Boat name: Cerberus
Make: Destroyer 5.8
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I have the same problem, particularly as my odd shaped hull has a deadrise at the front of around 75 degrees (its really very sharp) reducing to about 21 degrees at the transom. I've ordered a wide keel roller where the narrowest part of the roller is wider than the bracket it comes with so i can mount it on the back face of the swing beam so it is just above the beam. It might be a total failure as I suspect I will need one on each side of the beam to stop the beam swinging too much and causing damage on the back edge. I'll hopefully try it at the weekend, deliveries and weather depend, and report back.
Phil M
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30 March 2015, 13:16
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Good stuff Phil, look forward to your findings.
In mean time I'm going to wrap PVC hose round the beam.
The repair on mine is 99% done, just polishing left to do which should be done today.
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30 March 2015, 13:44
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Town: Retford
Boat name: Spy-sea-one
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hey bud,
no matter what carpet is going round it just now.
luckily, or unluckily depending on your viewpoint, my keelguard isn't on it yet. would have wrecked it. damage isn't too bad, will fix it tomorrow and see about making something.
i can't find anywhere outside USA with the brackets.
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there's a company called port-mere rubber they sell all sorts of rubber fendering you could cover the swinging arm with strips of rubber glued on say with a shore hardness of 60 then no matter what angle the boat comes in at it will ride the rubber until the rollers take over, they possibly have rubber tube which would act as a roller just food for thought.
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30 March 2015, 20:06
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Town: Manchester
Boat name: "mr Jingles"
Make: Ribcraft
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Hi Xk59D it looks to me that you're rollers are too far apart they need moving in about 2"- 3"on each side & the same one the swinging arm you should be okay then 👍
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30 March 2015, 21:08
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do you have any pics of your boat on the trailer hadd?
cheers
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31 March 2015, 10:35
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Yes I have somewhere I'll hunt them down & pop them on later for you👍
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31 March 2015, 17:43
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31 March 2015, 20:39
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Town: Southampton
Boat name: DynaMoHumm/ SRV/deja
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THIS IS THE BEST SOLUTION i VE SEEN
I put the tyre on as a size gauge its a 165 13
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31 March 2015, 21:20
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thanks for that....food for thought indeed.
I'm not sure moving mine will get it anywhere near that height.
I'll move it later this week if weather breaks and report back.
i've fixed the damage, didn't bother with colour match as the keel guard is going over it anyways.
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02 April 2015, 12:25
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Town: blackpool
Boat name: Fast Forward
Make: Scorpion
Length: 8m +
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hey all,
had a problem with the boat today.
first time bringing it in at my normal slip and the bow hit the swing beam....grrrrr
obviously don't want to happen again, the rollers are in between the chines so i can't really move them to get height too much. i can move them a little so i'll do that, but i also want to put something on the swing beam just incase.
has anyone ever seen something similar in UK?
most keel rollers in UK are designed to be bolted on from the top, i need something on the side, this will allow me to use U bolts as i don't want to drill into the beam to fit a normal style keel roller.
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Had a similar problem,first came to light when we used to recover our 6m Redbay off the beach at Blackpool.The problem was that when the boat hit the back roller the swing beam used to kick up and the boat would hit it.we solved this by adding a another roller to the front of the beam.our next problem was with the 8m diesel Scorpion,it is a very heavy boat and trailer recovering can be tricky on some slips,We have solved the problem of the boat missing the rear rollers by adding side wobble rollers. Docking arms are also very handy with a big boat, the photo illustrates our solution
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06 April 2015, 21:11
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i moved the rollers as much as i could and not bother the chines. It got me 3/4" more height but i'd like more.
does anyone know where i can get some 2x1" galv box and i'll shim up what i have with some longer U bolts?
would need 4 bits say 10" long.
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06 April 2015, 21:13
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Town: Wakefield
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keel roller options
You will have to get the box section and galv it after
Local engineers would be best bet for some short ends or steel stockholders
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06 April 2015, 21:16
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hey Mick,
i'm hoping be able to avoid doing that as getting it galv'd may be a PITA.
SBS sell something that i may end up using if i can't find something better.
Support Tubes for Bunks and Side Rollers
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