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22 February 2015, 18:54
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Land Rover Defender towing mpg
I'm looking at getting a defender 200 and I'm trying to weigh up the pros and cons.
Does anyone know what there like on fuel when towing a rib as I know they poor on fuel mpg in the first place but does it make a massive difference when you stick a boat on the back.
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22 February 2015, 18:57
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Land Rover Defender towing mpg
What do you mean 200
Do you mean the old 200 tdi
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22 February 2015, 19:02
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What do you mean 200
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200tdi?
They're around 30mpg, towing a few less obviously depending of trailer weight!
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22 February 2015, 19:07
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30mpg is not too bad then I guess.
I get 30mpg with our Eco Skoda yeti but I'm worried I may kill the clutch or gearbox with anymore fruity launch or recoveries and being only 2wd looses traction very easily.
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22 February 2015, 19:20
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I have a Defender 130 with the 2.4 ford transit engine doesn't seem to matter if towing or solo it still does 25 to 30 mpg
The only time you use a lot of fuel is if you bury your foot on a motorway
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22 February 2015, 19:25
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200 tdi is getting old now and was only good for 28mpg in a 110 when I had one 15 years ago and they were much younger (less worn).
They are going to be a money pit now like all old landys, lots of fixing things.
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22 February 2015, 19:26
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25mpg "on tow" is a real world figure for the 300TDi, dunno about the 200 - prolly not much in it.
Sore on the @rse and spine on the road.
Rules on the slip
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22 February 2015, 19:27
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Originally Posted by camelgas
200 tdi is getting old now and was only good for 28mpg in a 110 when I had one 15 years ago and they were much younger (less worn).
They are going to be a money pit now like all old landys, lots of fixing things.
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Yup!
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22 February 2015, 19:39
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200 tdi is getting old now and was only good for 28mpg in a 110 when I had one 15 years ago and they were much younger (less worn).
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28 was good. 24-25 average around these parts (hilly) , less with weight behind.
30mpg would be a miracle out of any non-current Landy.
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23 February 2015, 10:09
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25 towing? I wish. Mine (300Tdi 110 Stn Wagon) does weigh in at 2400kg 'unladen' (for which read only including bits bolted to it!) but only does about 21/22 over a tankful even in normal use.
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23 February 2015, 10:28
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mick
I have a Defender 130 with the 2.4 ford transit engine doesn't seem to matter if towing or solo it still does 25 to 30 mpg
The only time you use a lot of fuel is if you bury your foot on a motorway
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My 90 Hard-Top TD5 (with a few engine 'refinements') returns very similar results except that when I'm towing my fuel consumption is BETTER than when I'm flying solo. I do tend to bury my foot on the motorway.....
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23 February 2015, 13:16
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My 28 mpg was a best figure mollers, your 26 was probably more realistic for day to day use.
I did a lot of heavy towing at that time, big 4 wheel ifor trailer with minimum 2 ton+ loads and as said low 20's then
I now keep a old tax exempt landy that only covers a small annual milage so fuel/running costs not really an issue, more keeping the rust at bay !
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23 February 2015, 23:12
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Yes my TD5's have all returned better MPG towing than un-towing.
Too tempting to be cruising along in the fast lane, but plowing a 2t brick through the air at 90 comes at a cost.
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24 February 2015, 07:57
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I agree, I have a TD5 and have towed my rib numerous times, better fuel economy towing than not towing, as towing I am being extra careful being smooth and going steady, when not towing im excelerating up to speed if that is what you call it in a defender. So even long distances or short you may get better fuel economy just by the way your driving, so you shouldn't worry about it. Defenders make great tow vehicles for boats.
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26 February 2015, 19:26
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Is there much fuel difference between a 90 and a 110 as I guess the 110 is heavier.
Are there any big problem areas to look out for other than the bulkhead and crossmember.
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26 February 2015, 19:56
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Is there much fuel difference between a 90 and a 110 as I guess the 110 is heavier.
Are there any big problem areas to look out for other than the bulkhead and crossmember.
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The 110 isn't THAT much heavier but does have a (much) larger fuel tank. MPG difference is around 1mpg. The 110 isn't the easiest machine to reverse a trailer behind, but similar to a crewcab I suppose. There's eff all space in the back of a 90.
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26 February 2015, 20:47
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The 110 isn't THAT much heavier but does have a (much) larger fuel tank. MPG difference is around 1mpg. The 110 isn't the easiest machine to reverse a trailer behind, but similar to a crewcab I suppose. There's eff all space in the back of a 90.
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you think yours is hard to reverse try mine that slip at puffin is a bitch with the 130
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26 February 2015, 21:12
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Quote:
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you think yours is hard to reverse try mine that slip at puffin is a bitch with the 130
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But not as difficult as with an Astra
.....sh1t happens.......
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26 February 2015, 21:22
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Quote:
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But not as difficult as with an Astra
.....sh1t happens.......
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that chap shouldn't be allowed behind a wheel
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28 February 2015, 21:41
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I had a 300tdi excellent machine. Prob got 24-25 towing and 28-30 not.
Excellent in the slip and hated having to sell. I now have a discovery td5 so it's better for the family and 34 mpg not sure about towing yet ! 😊
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