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04 June 2013, 11:01
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Town: Bromsgrove
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This clean to be fare
Almost there we do have some good toys at work
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04 June 2013, 19:30
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Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Glasgow
Boat name: stramash
Make: Tornado
Length: 5m +
Engine: Etec 90
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Originally Posted by Pikey Dave
I'm guessing that you'll need to put a resistor in series with the indicators to suit most modern cars with CanBus systems, otherwise you'll be travelling down the road looking like a demented disco ball
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Confirmed .. I bought mine for a couple of troublesome plant trailers which vibrate the bulbs to buggery, but I'd like to have them on the boat trailer too, but I tested them on a board and the BMW X5 wont have them at all, infact nothing at all! just a gibbering left flasher, the plant trailers work fine though, the commercial punters still seem ok
Whats the fix for the X5 PD ? Just something I can get from RS as you say ?
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04 June 2013, 20:36
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Member
Country: Ireland
Town: Belfast
Boat name: Cait
Make: Humber
Length: 5m +
Engine: 90hp Opti
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Got mine yesterday.
Tried them on the board - and plugged in - no joy
Only two indicator leds on each side light up the other three dont. Looking carefully it seems that there is something over the leds?
Side lights and brake lights dont work at all! I've checked and re-checked the wiring.
Gonna get in touch with company tomorrow.
This is on a Mitzi Shogun.
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04 June 2013, 20:42
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Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Central Belt of Scotland
Boat name: Puddleduck III
Make: Bombard
Length: 5m +
Engine: 50 HP
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white is the earth if this helps....
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04 June 2013, 20:42
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Country: UK - England
Town: Sticks, N.Yorks
Boat name: Tamanco
Make: Honwave 3.5AE
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There's no mention in the adverts of any special wiring !!! Is it just certain cars as I thought 12 volts was the industry norm ?
I'm now waiting before I buy some so that you guys find out the issue !
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04 June 2013, 20:44
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Country: UK - Scotland
Boat name: imposter
Make: FunYak
Length: 3m +
Engine: Tohatsu 30HP
MMSI: 235089819
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Originally Posted by Bigmuz7
Those VOSA boys will be throwing some Bee Gees dance shapes when they realise they cant do you for a faulty bulb no more
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Are the CE marked? I'm sure a grumpy inspector will find something!
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Originally Posted by paddlers
There's no mention in the adverts of any special wiring !!! Is it just certain cars as I thought 12 volts was the industry norm ?
I'm now waiting before I buy some so that you guys find out the issue !
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I'd expect most old school cars will be fine - its just a voltage thing, but fancy modern cars with bulb fail detection circuits and all that malarky might be a bit confused by not having any real current draw.
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04 June 2013, 20:46
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Country: Ireland
Town: Belfast
Boat name: Cait
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Originally Posted by SPR
white is the earth if this helps....
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Checked thoroughly! If it was an earth prob the indicator bulbs that do work correctly wouldn't! (There are 5 indicator leds in each set - only two of mine work in each)
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04 June 2013, 20:52
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Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Central Belt of Scotland
Boat name: Puddleduck III
Make: Bombard
Length: 5m +
Engine: 50 HP
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white & yellow/amber = Indicators
I have a set here, but no tail lights only number plate lights - white is the earth the rest are function i was using small 12 volt battery that may be flat so will check tomorrow with big battery!
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04 June 2013, 20:55
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Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
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Make: Ribcraft
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Originally Posted by Bigmuz7
Confirmed .. I bought mine for a couple of troublesome plant trailers which vibrate the bulbs to buggery, but I'd like to have them on the boat trailer too, but I tested them on a board and the BMW X5 wont have them at all, infact nothing at all! just a gibbering left flasher, the plant trailers work fine though, the commercial punters still seem ok
Whats the fix for the X5 PD ? Just something I can get from RS as you say ?
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IIRC I used these in parallel with the indicators. You will need a heatsink to fix them to. My light clusters have a reflector between the indicator & brake/sidelight cluster. The reflector section has a void in the rear, I cut a piece of ally to fit in the void & bolted the resistor to it. Works fine so far after a couple of seasons.
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04 June 2013, 21:06
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Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Glasgow
Boat name: stramash
Make: Tornado
Length: 5m +
Engine: Etec 90
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Originally Posted by Pikey Dave
IIRC I used these in parallel with the indicators. You will need a heatsink to fix them to. My light clusters have a reflector between the indicator & brake/sidelight cluster. The reflector section has a void in the rear, I cut a piece of ally to fit in the void & bolted the resistor to it. Works fine so far after a couple of seasons.
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Can do thanks for that .. sounds a canny solution does the rest of the system go to normal function when that's put in on just the indictors though ? . Kinda voids the water resitant appeal for boat use
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04 June 2013, 21:53
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Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
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Make: Ribcraft
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Originally Posted by Bigmuz7
Can do thanks for that .. sounds a canny solution does the rest of the system go to normal function when that's put in on just the indictors though ? . Kinda voids the water resitant appeal for boat use
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Works fine on the Disco4, I can't comment on the Beemer, good luck I "potted" the resistor in Silicone to keep the weather out.
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04 June 2013, 23:42
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Country: UK - Scotland
Town: montrose
Boat name: rib tickler
Make: Tornado
Length: 5m +
Engine: 150hp Optimax V6
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Just wired mine straight in and they work great on the Kia Sorento.
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07 June 2013, 17:45
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
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Looks like I dropped a b0110ck with the link I posted for the resistor, It should be a 6.8 Ohm NOT 6.8 K Ohm as in my link, it should be this one
Sorry for any confusion & thanks to Bern for pointing it out. My bad
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07 June 2013, 20:50
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Glasgow
Boat name: stramash
Make: Tornado
Length: 5m +
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cheers for the update PD ..
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07 June 2013, 21:10
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Town: Ashton-under-Lyne Lancs
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Make: Air-Craft 5.4
Length: 5m +
Engine: Suzuki df70a
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cheers for the update PD ..
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Just waiting for him to update us all on how he lost his skegs on the Oban holiday
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07 June 2013, 22:10
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Glasgow
Boat name: stramash
Make: Tornado
Length: 5m +
Engine: Etec 90
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Just waiting for him to update us all on how he lost his skegs on the Oban holiday
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Fek was the local oban prostitute offering low prices again
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07 June 2013, 22:53
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Sticks, N.Yorks
Boat name: Tamanco
Make: Honwave 3.5AE
Length: 3m +
Engine: Tohatsu Outboard
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Just got a pair of the £20 set off fleabay ! To be fair they looked quite good when I hooked them up to the battery for a test!
I'm not planning on dunking them so hopefully they'll last a while. Sick of changing bulbs in trailerboards so hopefully these will last a year or two.
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08 June 2013, 15:25
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Norfolk/Suffolk Borders
Make: no boat
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Join Date: Oct 2002
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tonymac
Got mine yesterday.
Tried them on the board - and plugged in - no joy
Only two indicator leds on each side light up the other three dont. Looking carefully it seems that there is something over the leds?
Side lights and brake lights dont work at all! I've checked and re-checked the wiring.
Gonna get in touch with company tomorrow.
This is on a Mitzi Shogun.
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Tony , tried mine today on a 2004 Mitzi Shogun 3.2 DID and they worked absolutely fine ( with no additional resistors )
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08 June 2013, 22:24
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Sticks, N.Yorks
Boat name: Tamanco
Make: Honwave 3.5AE
Length: 3m +
Engine: Tohatsu Outboard
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Did mine today & they worked fine on the Defender & the Merc ML so more than happy ! £20 pair off ebay, the only downside is no fog light & £10 for an led version but as they're fitted to a removable transom saver/ light unit they shouldn't get in the salty stuff.
Tested them before I fitted them on a bare battery & no issues !
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