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20 February 2015, 19:37
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Lighting board issue GRRR
Why is nothing simple??
Needed to replace the fog lamp on the lighting board after some over- enthusiastic packing up / loading last season shattered the lens cover.
1) Can I find a replacement block so I can just replace the lens cover? No.
2) Do find a replacement fog light, but of different dimensions so need to move the reflective triangle. Also need to reposition the 2 connecting wires by drilling new hole on the board - not a problem.
3) The spade connectors for the fog lamp don't fit through through the very narrow access hole on the new block grrrrr..... but solved with a litte ingenuity / patience.
When I finally connect the 2 wires - one blue, one white to the fog light block, the rear lights / indicators work fine - I think I've cracked it. When however I turn the foglight on, the bulb does not light, and the other lights dim.
Can anyone shed some light on what is I'm sure a simple wiring issue, but has me scratching my head?
Many thanks
LT
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20 February 2015, 19:51
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Originally Posted by lakelandterrier
Can anyone shed some light on what is I'm sure a simple...
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Shed some light...ha
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20 February 2015, 19:52
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Sounds stupid but does the bulb defiantly work?
Positives and negatives right way round?
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20 February 2015, 20:22
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Town: Aberdeenshire
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Light boards are Satan's work!
Might not be the light board, but the 12v connection at the tow bar. Check the electrical connections and use a very fine sand paper to clean any oxide off the copper connections. Also check the individual bulbs, including brake and indicator connections.
Failing that... 3FT, 4FT, 4FT 6IN TRAILER LIGHT BOARD WITH CABLE TRAILOR CARAVAN CAR LIGHTS PLUG | eBay
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20 February 2015, 20:28
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I made my own using truck lights
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20 February 2015, 20:47
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Is that board legal? Its eyes look too close together?
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20 February 2015, 20:49
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And the one in front doesn't look like it has triangle reflectors (I think there are some in the cluster on the back one)
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20 February 2015, 21:04
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Originally Posted by ShinyShoe
Is that board legal? Its eyes look too close together?
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Duno but it's been to Scotland , Italy , Wincanton & London with no trouble but it did cross my mind when I made it , that's 6' wide been thinking about doing one a bit wider to move the lights out more
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20 February 2015, 21:08
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Sounds like an earth fault
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20 February 2015, 22:17
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Originally Posted by mick
Duno but it's been to Scotland , Italy , Wincanton & London with no trouble but it did cross my mind when I made it , that's 6' wide been thinking about doing one a bit wider to move the lights out more
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So there are rules on where the triangles and lights need to be relative to the trailer width. Think the rules are ambiguous with regard to boat width vs trailer width. But it would be hard to imagine that the trailer width us less than the trailer board... Without a tape measure I don't know but I think the lights are too far from the ends of the board at least. But I suspect even at the extremes of the board may not technically be wide enough for the tube overhangs, but I doubt many would notice that detail.
Its the kind of thing a cop car won't often pull you over for unless they are on one, have some other reason to want to pull you, you pissed them off but they can't easily do you for that. BUT its also the kind of thing that when I drive into your trailer by accident I will say means it's not my fault if you don't mark your trailer corners properly.
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20 February 2015, 22:48
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Originally Posted by ShinyShoe
So there are rules on where the triangles and lights need to be relative to the trailer width. Think the rules are ambiguous with regard to boat width vs trailer width. But it would be hard to imagine that the trailer width us less than the trailer board... Without a tape measure I don't know but I think the lights are too far from the ends of the board at least. But I suspect even at the extremes of the board may not technically be wide enough for the tube overhangs, but I doubt many would notice that detail.
Its the kind of thing a cop car won't often pull you over for unless they are on one, have some other reason to want to pull you, you pissed them off but they can't easily do you for that. BUT its also the kind of thing that when I drive into your trailer by accident I will say means it's not my fault if you don't mark your trailer corners properly.
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That's where my outline markers come in
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20 February 2015, 23:06
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If you drive into the back of a trailer then its your fault anyway...
The lights are within the limits from the edge of the trailer. The boat is the load and can overhang further.
The trailer in front though is commiting an offence by not having triangl reflectors fitted.
The rules regarding the width of the trailer and the boat are the same as any trailer and load. There is a maximum trailer width and a maximum over hang on either side.
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20 February 2015, 23:12
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PD is in front and pretty sure he has the triangles and is legal
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21 February 2015, 10:39
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Eureka!!!!
Sorted it this morning.
Many thanks for the advices which led me to a logical approach today......
Started off this morning checking every connection / bulb without the foglight - all fine, so deduced it must be something around the foglight not another problem .
Bulb OK
Wires OK, reversing them made no difference
So must be the connections.
And it was.....had connected one wire to the obvious (but wrong) terminal causing a short... found the right terminal hidden in a rather inacessible place - why I missed it last night in less good light.
Would be nice if people who made these things thought about the user, not just the efficiency of manufacture, or at least put a diagram in.
Now to check over the rest of the kit....I know I need new flares - what else will I find?
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21 February 2015, 11:14
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Originally Posted by Mcd22
If you drive into the back of a trailer then its your fault anyway....
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Rest assured, if I drive into your trailer corner and the lights are not in the correct legal location I will be making sure my very expensive lawyer is tell the very nice judge that its not my fault if someone puts a triangle on the rear of their trailer which should mark within 40cm of the trailer edge and has an allowed overhang of 30.5cm, so the triangle says there is an instruction here which could be 70.5cm from the triangle. If the obstruction is actually 90cm from the triangle and I clip it then the person who was in a position to prevent that accident was the person towing the trailer.
Especially as in that photo the lights could have moved another 30cm or so to the sides as the board is wider than the lights...
Now if I drive straight into the back if you I probably have less of a position to argue. Rest assured if I think I stand a chance I will be letting my lawyer give it a go anyway. "Your honour, my client says he was surprised by the size of the trailer given its illegal lighting and as a consequence scuffed into it slightly. "
Trailer lights are a pain. So fit your triangles properly as they don't need power...
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21 February 2015, 13:30
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You do get some belters on this site that would argue with their own shadow !
Think a few need to get a life !
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21 February 2015, 13:46
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You do get some belters on this site that would argue with their own shadow !
Think a few need to get a life !
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+1
.....sh1t happens.......
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21 February 2015, 17:31
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You do get some belters on this site that would argue with their own shadow !
Think a few need to get a life !
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+2 I just thought what a cock
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21 February 2015, 18:38
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 69cmw
You do get some belters on this site that would argue with their own shadow !
Think a few need to get a life !
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+3 Ribnet trailer Police.....
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21 February 2015, 18:46
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I've broke a bit of my triangle do I need to worry? 😄
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