Lighting board Q

Sargan · 02 June 2020, 11:20

New trailer & lighting board ..... the set up has board behind the raised drive - so number plate is obscured.
OK .. I could move number plate to the side .... but what is the rule ... should lighting board be 'after' the drive ...eg after the last part of the boat

Ribtecer · 02 June 2020, 12:54

I think it just has to be clearly visible from the rear of the trailer.

Mine is on brackets which slide out of the trailer and are behind the boat but not the engine, pretty standard set up, and this requires the prop to be covered.

I believe if the lightboard is positioned behind the whole rig, the prop does not need to be covered.

Pikey Dave · 02 June 2020, 13:00

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Originally Posted by Sargan

New trailer & lighting board ..... the set up has board behind the raised drive - so number plate is obscured.
OK .. I could move number plate to the side .... but what is the rule ... should lighting board be 'after' the drive ...eg after the last part of the boat

You’re allowed a 1m Max overhang

Sargan · 02 June 2020, 13:01

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Originally Posted by Ribtecer

I think it just has to be clearly visible from the rear of the trailer.

Mine is on brackets which slide out of the trailer and are behind the boat but not the engine, pretty standard set up, and this requires the prop to be covered.

I believe if the lightboard is positioned behind the whole rig, the prop does not need to be covered.

My previous boat had slight out aram on teh trailer that put lighting board in front of the drive .... just not the case on this one. Regulations are specific that number plate must be on centre line ... but not much else.

Ribtecer · 02 June 2020, 13:14

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Originally Posted by Sargan

Regulations are specific that number plate must be on centre line ... but not much else.

Don't know about that, mine isn't, and that board was supplied by Indespension

Pikey Dave · 02 June 2020, 14:56

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Originally Posted by Sargan

....Regulations are specific that number plate must be on centre line ... but not much else.

Hmmm! Are you sure about that?

Nasher · 02 June 2020, 15:04

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Originally Posted by Sargan

Regulations are specific that number plate must be on centre line ... but not much else.

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Originally Posted by Pikey Dave

Hmmm! Are you sure about that?

Yep, I'd be interested to see that too, I don't believe it's correct.

My Trailer and Discovery Tow vehicle would both fall foul of it.

Nasher.

Allye · 02 June 2020, 15:09

Another thing worth noting is the board has to be secured to the trailer not the load. I see a lot of boats/owners not abiding by that one!

Pikey Dave · 02 June 2020, 15:55

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Originally Posted by Nasher

Yep, I'd be interested to see that too, I don't believe it's correct.

My Trailer and Discovery Tow vehicle would both fall foul of it.

Nasher.

Likewise [emoji848] I can’t find anything in the regs that say it has to be on the centreline.

Nasher · 02 June 2020, 16:38

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Originally Posted by Pikey Dave

Likewise [emoji848] I can’t find anything in the regs that say it has to be on the centreline.

I'm 99% certain it doesn't say it has to be, without even looking.

Nasher.

Last Tango · 02 June 2020, 18:21

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Originally Posted by Nasher

I'm 99% certain it doesn't say it has to be, without even looking.

Nasher.

+1. There'd be a lot of us would fall foul if that was the case.

Fog light required on offside if trailer is over 7 meters and there should be a warning triangle on the overhang.

neil.mccrirrick · 02 June 2020, 18:34

I’ve had mine attached to the a frame for over 20 years. Never been asked to move it or challenged. I’m aware it’s “not right” but to reassure anyone else it clearly isn’t worth police attention.

davej · 02 June 2020, 18:41

Mine had been on the A frame since I bought the RIB 20 yrs ago, absolutely no issues with the highway patrol, my view is, if it works and is clearly visible than you probably won’t have any problems.

69cmw · 02 June 2020, 20:14

Looks like the biannual light board discussion has started again 🤣🤣

Pikey Dave · 02 June 2020, 21:02

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Originally Posted by 69cmw

Looks like the biannual light board discussion has started again 🤣🤣

Well, we had the Kill Cord one last week🥴

Poly · 02 June 2020, 21:54

Wow, how much misinformation can we fit in one thread...

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Originally Posted by Allye

Another thing worth noting is the board has to be secured to the trailer not the load. I see a lot of boats/owners not abiding by that one!

I'm fairly certain that the last time this got asserted we concluded after reviewing the regs that this was not the case. (Attached to an A-frame *may* be technically problematic for height reasons but there seemed to be nothing precluding attaching to the load itself).

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Originally Posted by Last Tango

Fog light required on offside if trailer is over 7 meters and there should be a warning triangle on the overhang.

Only if the overhang is >1m IIRC otherwise just needs clearly marked?

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Originally Posted by Sargan

My previous boat had slight out aram on teh trailer that put lighting board in front of the drive .... just not the case on this one. Regulations are specific that number plate must be on centre line ... but not much else.

As others have said I'm not sure where you think that is stipulated, but moreover they visibility it clearly defined (with respect to a viewing area that the plate must be visible in), and that it must be lit (I can't recall if it only has to be lit at night or needs to be capable of being lit in the day too).

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Originally Posted by Sargan

New trailer & lighting board ..... the set up has board behind the raised drive - so number plate is obscured.
OK .. I could move number plate to the side .... but what is the rule ... should lighting board be 'after' the drive ...eg after the last part of the boat

It doesn't need to be after the drive (subject to overhang rules) but it MUST NOT be obscured. I'd suggest that there will be quite a range of tolerance for people who make a decent effort to be compliant for almost anything except what might be perceived as hiding the plate.

Allye · 02 June 2020, 22:13

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Originally Posted by Poly

I'm fairly certain that the last time this got asserted we concluded after reviewing the regs that this was not the case. (Attached to an A-frame *may* be technically problematic for height reasons but there seemed to be nothing precluding attaching to the load itself).
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Let me whole heartily disagree with you.

Poly · 02 June 2020, 22:59

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Originally Posted by Allye

Let me whole heartily disagree with you.

would you care to explain the correct interpretation of:

The Road Vehicles Lighting Regulations 1989, Regulation 21, Table Item 6 then?

Pikey Dave · 02 June 2020, 23:37

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Originally Posted by Poly

would you care to explain the correct interpretation of:

The Road Vehicles Lighting Regulations 1989, Regulation 21, Table Item 6 then?

I can’t wait to get onto “Indivisible Loads”. That’s my favourite [emoji1]

Salty Pete · 17 June 2020, 04:13

I can't understand why people ask questions regarding the regulations on trailers when they must be, it is in Western Australia, available online from the relevant authority.

In accordance with our laws, most of the advice given is incorrect.