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01 February 2013, 10:54
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RIBnet supporter
Country: UK - England
Town: Warwickshire
Boat name: Impulse
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SPR
illegal to show red to front or white to back.,.
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Oh yeah oops
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01 February 2013, 14:56
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#42
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RIBnet admin team
Country: UK - England
Town: The wilds of Wiltshire
Boat name: Dominator
Make: SR5.4
Length: 7m +
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Red/white marker lights are now superceded by amber marker lights.
I think the red/white ones are now techincally illegal for vehicles/trailers under a certain age. they certainly aren't fitted to HGV trailers anymore.
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01 February 2013, 15:01
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#43
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Paisley
Boat name: Don't know yet...
Make: Arctic 22
Length: 6m +
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The trailer should display a white marker light on the front and a red marker light on the rear at the widest point (usually the front and back of a trailer i.e. Box or flatbed). Down the side it should be multiple single amber lights. Its the use of the combined white/red lights down the side instead of amber that's frowned upon now.
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01 February 2013, 15:05
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Country: UK - England
Town: The wilds of Wiltshire
Boat name: Dominator
Make: SR5.4
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mcd22
Down the side it should be multiple single amber lights. Its the use of the combined white/red lights down the side instead of amber that's frowned upon now.
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Thats what I meant.
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01 February 2013, 15:16
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#45
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: North Lincolnshire
Boat name: Mary Olwen
Make: Humber
Length: 6m +
Engine: OB, Petrol, 140HP
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 151
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wightdiver
No one will see them as there is a boat in the way (hopefully) If you have fog lights on the towing board take the bulbs out!
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To comply with the law, the vehicle's own foglight(s) should be disabled as soon as you plug the trailer light board in. If it doesn't then your socket is faulty!
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01 February 2013, 21:52
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Gloucestershire
Boat name: Osprey
Make: Osprey Vipermax
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amber reflectors on the mudguards. Cheap and easy
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01 February 2013, 21:54
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Country: Ireland
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Reflectors (as previously suggested x 2) don't work in wing mirrors
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01 February 2013, 22:01
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Northampton
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Engine: Outbaord mariner 75
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Chewwy yep my old car dissabled the rear fogs then the trailer lights are connected . I thought there was an Issue with it.
even took it to the jag dealers and they confirmed....
Must check the new mondeo on that one.
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01 February 2013, 22:11
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Member
Country: UK - England
Boat name: ShaarkBait
Make: Zodiac 3.6 FR
Length: 3m +
Engine: Mariner 9.9 4-stroke
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Some cars, ie VW/Audi have sophisticated digital towing electronics. As well as disabling fog lights, they also disable rear parking sensors and put car into special stability mode to reduce issues when towing. Which is why an official. VW/Audi tow bar electronics cost a small fortune.
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01 February 2013, 22:56
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#50
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: yorkshire
Boat name: little vicky
Make: avon ex RNLI
Length: 3m +
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Amber rotating /flashing lights as far as I know can only be used Actually on the Move only by a very slow moving eg( road maintenance sweeper )or abnormal load vehicle .
Think it's a grey area for recovery or breakdown trucks whilst on the move even if they have a car on the back , relative of mine was a transport manager for one of the major national recovery groups(club) & was often getting complaints from the police about their vehicles using amber flashers whilst driving ,,police view was that even if towing a broken down car it's just classed then as any other trailer or caravan & they could only be used whilst stationary at the scene of a broken down vehicle or accident .
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01 February 2013, 23:42
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Fort William
Make: Ribcraft 585
Length: 5m +
Engine: Yamaha F115
Join Date: Mar 2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy B
Put your rear fog lights on, it lights the boat up a treat...
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My Toyota Hilux's 12N socket cuts off the vehicles fog but illuminates the trailer fog.
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02 February 2013, 01:53
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RIBnet admin team
Country: UK - Scotland
Boat name: imposter
Make: FunYak
Length: 3m +
Engine: Tohatsu 30HP
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mister p
I've got to say though, there's nothing bad about running a string of LED's around your rig whilst under way, on the road.
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Except that there are certain rules about lighting and if you are sitting on 9 points you don't want to upset someone who decides to prove them!
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Originally Posted by willk
AFAIK (amd I didn't check 'cos I didn't plan to change my plan) you need to be travelling below a certain speed - it's something silly like 20-40mph.
This bothered me not a jot
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There are various classes of vehicle entitled (in the UK) to be fitted with orange beacons. One of them is vehicles with a maximum speed of 25 mph. Gritters etc are also pemitted to fit/use at higher speeds.
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Originally Posted by willk
Well, perhaps not when you mount it on an extension bar outward from the starboard mudguard...
It did keep 'em wide though
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Beacons (in the UK) must be 1.2m above the ground.
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Originally Posted by EnglishLes
Item 7(ii) in this link ( The Road Vehicles Lighting Regulations 1989) states that you can have amber flashing light on any vehicle for the following purpose "when it is necessary or desirable to warn persons of the presence of the vehicle". This applies to the UK not sure about Ireland.
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You are confusing using and fitting. The fitting rules are for specific types of vehicle then the use is "when it is necessary to warn"...
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02 February 2013, 06:55
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#53
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Country: Ireland
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Poly
Beacons (in the UK) must be 1.2m above the ground.
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Same here
It must have been an omission on the part of the drafting authority - no category quite covers "110 towing a 2.7m wide dark blue Redbay hurtling down country lanes in the dark trying to avoid numpties who pull out again immediately after you pass"
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02 February 2013, 08:28
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#54
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Member
Country: UK - England
Boat name: ShaarkBait
Make: Zodiac 3.6 FR
Length: 3m +
Engine: Mariner 9.9 4-stroke
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I was towed by AA once and was told to switch hazards off as it was illegal when moving. But that was 20+ years ago so may be out of date advice.
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02 February 2013, 08:47
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#55
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: yorkshire
Boat name: little vicky
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As of September 1990 All trailers over 6 metres in length
must have amber side markers and combined amber reflectors,
Not less than 4mtres from the front
Not more than 1 metre from the rear
With a spacing not more than 3 metres between each lamp .
All trailers over 1.6 metre wide need white front facing marker lights ( though i think there used to be an exclusion if it was a boat trailer used only during daylight hours )
Over 2.1 metre wide both front and rear Outline (front facing profile)lights are required eg( (caravan ).
Max towing length 6 metres
but with a maximum of 7 metres if it is classed as an Indivisible load ( load that can not be readily broken into smaller units ) eg aircraft/ helicopter / boat hull .
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02 February 2013, 08:53
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#56
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Sheepy Parva
Boat name: Sadly Sold
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Quote:
Originally Posted by m chappelow
As of September 1990 All trailers over 6 metres in length
must have amber side markers and combined amber reflectors,
Not less than 4mtres from the front
Not more than 1 metre from the rear
With a spacing not more than 3 metres between each lamp
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Is this correct? If so, my brand new in 2009 trailer is illegal
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02 February 2013, 09:27
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#57
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RIBnet admin team
Country: UK - Scotland
Boat name: imposter
Make: FunYak
Length: 3m +
Engine: Tohatsu 30HP
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Leapy
Is this correct? If so, my brand new in 2009 trailer is illegal
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There is an exemption in Road Vehicle Lighting Regulations for: "A trailer constructed or adapted for the carriage and launching of a boat." which applies to:
- Front Position Lamps
- Side Marker Lamps
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02 February 2013, 09:36
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#58
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: liverpool
Make: tohatsu6.1 one desig
Length: 6m +
Engine: mariner 125hp
Join Date: Jan 2012
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I think most police would be happy to see lights on and most of them working.no matter how high,far apart.on load or veic...................
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02 February 2013, 09:56
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#59
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Aberdeenshire
Boat name: Sula
Make: Ribcraft 4.8m
Length: 4m +
Engine: Tohatsu 70hp + aux
MMSI: 235087213
Join Date: Jun 2007
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I know it's American, but this is a well lit trailer with LED rear lights, wheel arch marker lights and amber side lights. Kinda puts our plastic light boards to shame. I especially like the tail marker lights below the outboard... nice!
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02 February 2013, 10:13
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#60
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Sheepy Parva
Boat name: Sadly Sold
Length: no boat
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 1,731
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Poly
There is an exemption in Road Vehicle Lighting Regulations for: "A trailer constructed or adapted for the carriage and launching of a boat." which applies to:
- Front Position Lamps
- Side Marker Lamps
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Damn. I'm legal again ...
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