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25 November 2011, 18:39
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New trailer set up!
Evening all.
Today I made a rather epic trip up a "chockablock" M40 today to SBS trailers to pick up our new 1300kg Easy Roller trailer.
Its all shiny and I got a nice surprise when they handed over the hitchlock free of charge!!
Despite my earlier thoughts we've gone for the sealed bearings so we will be fingers crossed for the next 4-5years! Big thanks must go to Mike at Plymouth Powerboat School / South Coast Trailers for sorting it all out so quickly and at a decent price!
My next question.....
The boat will mount (childish )the trailer tomorrow for the first time and I'm wondering if anybody has some top tips for setting up a trailer for the first time?
I will be having a bit of a measure of the roller locations on the old Rapide trailer but I am wondering if a total fresh start is a good idea?
As ever your thoughts would be greatly appreciated!
Chris
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25 November 2011, 22:17
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Chris,
I am always pleased to help.
I would put the winch post as far forward as you can, then winch the boat on until the transom is level with the back of the rollers, then move the post back into place.
The actual rollers should be alright where they are, but you can always make minor adjustments next time the boat is launched if required.
Any questions, feel free to give me a call.
Michael
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26 November 2011, 13:55
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You won't want the spray rails sitting on the rollers, so configure it so the hinge pin on the roller axles is under the spray rail. Easily done by measuring the distance between opposite spray rails and setting up the roller bunks so the disance steween the roller axles is the same.
Make sure the bow rides onto the back roller bunk without fouling the cross beam by gently winching the trailer under the boat and checking for clearance. You may need to raise the roller bunks away from the cross beam to achieve this.
When winching the boat forward, as mentioned by SW RIB Charter, check that the winch post isn't too far forward or when the transom passes the swing beam, the beam will swing upwards and could hit the hull.
Just do things slowly and keep an eye out for any fouling.
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26 November 2011, 14:52
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Cable tie a bit of old carpet in the center of the back two cross beams...
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27 November 2011, 20:08
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Well it went ok but there is a bit too much nose weight for my liking and the back beam needs to support the transom a bit more.
I will fiddle a bit more and see how it goes.
Chris
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27 November 2011, 20:44
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Rib needs to moved forward 8 inches. The transom needs to sit nearer the the rear rollers for weight support..You say that there is to much weight on the draw bar? This wont help so your going to have the shift the axle a few inches to the rear. I can see that the keel roller isnt touching. Shift the boat forward and it should support. Sbs are great trailors and are fully adjustable in every way!!
Also shorten the trailer board arms. Prone to damage stuck out that far........
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27 November 2011, 20:47
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CJL
and the back beam needs to support the transom a bit more.
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If you need to move it right back, consider changing the extension tighteners to knobs rather than handles. It will give you another inch. And the handles are a PITA anyway.
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27 November 2011, 20:59
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before you shift the axle etc., move the rear swing beam back. I'd move it so the hangers are just in front of the lightbar knobs / handles. This'll give you the extra length you need and support the transom as it should. How much nose weight is too much nose weight? Make sure it's not too light.
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27 November 2011, 21:55
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Trailer Guy
How much nose weight is too much nose weight? Make sure it's not too light.
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Too much = can't lift it at all!!! Moving the axle is becoming the only option I suspect!!
Moving the rollers wont affect the nose weight but I know I need to support the transom to prevent a "hook" developing.
Chris
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27 November 2011, 22:26
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If there's too much weight on the drawbar for God's sake don't move the axle to the rear!
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28 November 2011, 01:50
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Courageous
If there's too much weight on the drawbar for God's sake don't move the axle to the rear!
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Who said move it back then?
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28 November 2011, 01:53
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CJL
Too much = can't lift it at all!!! Moving the axle is becoming the only option I suspect!!
Moving the rollers wont affect the nose weight but I know I need to support the transom to prevent a "hook" developing.
Chris
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Moving the swing beam and rear rollers back will lighten the nose weight a little, but I suspect not enough. Do this first before looking at moving the axle. When checking for nose weight also consider the fuel load too.
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28 November 2011, 01:59
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Just asking as viewing on my phone
Is the boat fully loaded and how much movement is there between the mudguard and the tyre ?
Jim
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28 November 2011, 07:01
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hightower
Who said move it back then?
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Matth in post number 6?
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28 November 2011, 18:34
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Yeah, not back - forward to lighten the nose Depending on your tow vehicle.... (a lot depends on that and the weight of the lump hanging off the transom) you want to be able to just about lift it with one hand - 60kg ish is a good starting point. It's all down to you and your set-up though.
Easy way to do it is get a set of bathroom scales, put them down in front of the trailer, under the hitch. Chop a length of 2 x 2 or similar to around the same height as your towball (around 19" ish?...), stick it in the towball socket on the coupling head and the other end on the bathroom scales. Then wind the trailer down, on the jockey wheel, until it's about that height as the towball, and see what the scales read.
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28 November 2011, 23:11
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Oops meant move axle forward.......
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28 November 2011, 23:15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Courageous
If there's too much weight on the drawbar for God's sake don't move the axle to the rear!
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Don't worry I spotted that reply......perhaps a tad counter productive!!
Chris
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28 November 2011, 23:18
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Doh!! Having a blonde moment there.....
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29 November 2011, 07:39
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Counter productive? I think it's more productive than you's lot leavin him to squash 'is motor!
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29 November 2011, 15:04
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bedajim
Just asking as viewing on my phone
Is the boat fully loaded and how much movement is there between the mudguard and the tyre ?
Jim
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Just me then, looks tight it could just be the angle of the picture?
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