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08 June 2015, 23:52
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protect new trailer..waxoyl?
hey folks,
Debating protecting my trailer with waxoyl...anyone else done it?
reason i'm thinking about it is i went to see a 2006 RC before buying mine and the trailer looked superb for the age, yes it was slightly yellow due to the oil but zero rest anywhere...........i assume there are drawbacks? i.e dirt must stick to it like flies on something
or should i stick with just fresh water rinse after dunking?
cheers
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09 June 2015, 08:44
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09 June 2015, 12:41
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Originally Posted by Xk59D
hey folks,
Debating protecting my trailer with waxoyl...anyone else done it?
reason i'm thinking about it is i went to see a 2006 RC before buying mine and the trailer looked superb for the age, yes it was slightly yellow due to the oil but zero rest anywhere...........i assume there are drawbacks? i.e dirt must stick to it like flies on something
or should i stick with just fresh water rinse after dunking?
cheers
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I've always waxoyled my trailers from new, never had a problem with rust or corrosion. It's not pretty, but it works.
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09 June 2015, 13:25
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Originally Posted by Pikey Dave
I've always waxoyled my trailers from new, never had a problem with rust or corrosion. It's not pretty, but it works.
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,,,,, until you bought a cheap (not !) and nasty (not !!!) stainless one
Lovely outfit - hope the bedding down cruise in Scotlands winter of May went well. Cheers for the shiny rod holders and have a good trip over the channel
Jeff
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09 June 2015, 18:32
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You can't rust proof any Trailer enough IMO...I wasx oil the inside of the Trailer best I can...I have access to a compressor which helps.
I also do the inside of the wheels then with a thin covering of water proof greece,same on suspention hubs ect...bit messy to apply BUT it works!..and lasts for ages
Give the outside of the wheels some corosion guard and a light spray,with silicon from time to time,a GOOD Power wash down each time,and you'll be good to go for years
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10 June 2015, 20:26
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Originally Posted by Jeff
,,,,, until you bought a cheap (not !) and nasty (not !!!) stainless one
Jeff
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Do you have one of those stainless steel trailers then?
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10 June 2015, 20:55
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Do you have one of those stainless steel trailers then?
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Who me?
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10 June 2015, 21:40
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Waxoyling galvanising is a bad idea. It can't be a sacrificial coating if it's covered up
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10 June 2015, 21:52
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Who me?
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Yeah sorry, that wasn't very clear of me!
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10 June 2015, 22:01
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Yeah sorry, that wasn't very clear of me!
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In that case, yup I have.
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11 June 2015, 07:56
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Originally Posted by Nos4r2
Waxoyling galvanising is a bad idea. It can't be a sacrificial coating if it's covered up
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OP said New Trailer Nos...worked for me for quite some time
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11 June 2015, 08:46
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I don't think (& I may be wrong) that Galvanising works in the same way as a sacrificial anode does e.g. on an engine. Galvanising is a protective coating, the zinc oxidises within a few days of being applied & the zinc oxide layer is very stable & unreactive. Protecting the oxide layer (with waxoyl) stops any further oxidisation & leads to a very tough protective coat which effectively "self heals" if it suffers minor damage. We install a lot of structural steelwork in water treatment works & the Water Industry spec for surface protection is :- shotblast-etch-galvanise-etch primer-undercoat-top coat. The galv has to be covered with a minimum thickness of paint. The galv is actually the last line of defence in case the paint is breached. This gives a 20 yr lifespan in an extremely aggressive environment.
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11 June 2015, 08:54
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i use waxoyl,marine spray grease & denso petrolatum paste
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11 June 2015, 09:18
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denso petrolatum paste
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Now that's good sh1t I found an open tub of that stuff, that had been loitering in the back of the garage for 30yrs, still fresh & gooey as the day it was "acquired"
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11 June 2015, 11:03
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Now that's good sh1t I found an open tub of that stuff, that had been loitering in the back of the garage for 30yrs, still fresh & gooey as the day it was "acquired"
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we use it for protecting piles on quay walls if you heat it till its like water then brush apply, it get right into the rust and stops corrosion clean all the loose s--t of first though.good for brake cables too gets into the weave.
cheers
its a Wynn & coles product if anyone needs some don't look pretty when on but does keep the trailer in good condition
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11 June 2015, 11:17
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Cheers, I didn't know about heating it, we've always used it cold in conjunction with Denso tape for protecting cable joints & earth bonds. Good tip.
.....sh1t happens.......
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11 June 2015, 11:54
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Cheers, I didn't know about heating it, we've always used it cold in conjunction with Denso tape for protecting cable joints & earth bonds. Good tip.
.....sh1t happens.......
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best way with old chip fryer no risk of combustion you can use a roller too to get a real nice finish on flat surfaces
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12 June 2015, 21:07
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waxoyl bought, will apply over the weekend.
I'll decide on whether to do the whole thing or just the important bits.
cheers
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13 June 2015, 09:59
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waxoyl bought, will apply over the weekend.
I'll decide on whether to do the whole thing or just the important bits.
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Xk59D
waxoyl is good but be mindful that dust sticks to it can look unsightly for me i sooner have it rust free than look pretty
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13 June 2015, 11:49
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Xk59D
waxoyl is good but be mindful that dust sticks to it can look unsightly for me i sooner have it rust free than look pretty
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I do the trailer internals only with Wax oil..for that reason,and the fact the rest is easy to rinse off inspect and maintain...most trailers Rot from the insides out.
Things like rollers and and swinging arms are best protected with Greese ect IMO.
One thing I do recommend is changing the washers on the rollers to Stainless..if not already fitted...easy to do,looks a lot better and saves grief down the line
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