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18 January 2012, 22:26
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SBS trailer bearing type
late in the day but just been told I'm collecting a boat tomorrow that has "noisy" bearings. Anybody know off hand what type of bearing is likely to be fitted (ie taper or the pressed type bearing that cannot be changed at the roadside as easy) ? It's only a local collection. They've quoted me £200 to change them for me. Reasonable if pressed type I guess
I'm guessing the model too at the moment but it's either the R2/1000EL OR R2/1300EL Braked version.
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18 January 2012, 22:29
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Likely Alko sealed for life bearings. £200?!... I need to put my prices up !!
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18 January 2012, 22:33
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I'm guessing I'm paying through the nose for "emergency" replacements at no notice. I know the bearings themselves will only cost £30 maybe. The big problem is not having a press to hand capable of getting them out/in at the brokers if they would require it ?
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18 January 2012, 22:36
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i've changed them without a press before.
Big, ball pein hammer, 3/4" socket that's big enough to line up with the outer race / carrier of the bearings, a set of circlip pliers and a big set of forearms.
hey presto
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18 January 2012, 22:42
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can you pick it up on a car transporter (hire one from tim at tamar?), and then change the bearings when back at yours?
got to be cheaper than £200. but then maybe it's not worth the embuggerance!
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18 January 2012, 22:52
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Good advice. We will check them before towing and if need be we will get them changed. Not worth the risk, just makes it more expensive for my buyer They will be changed down here anyway but we will have the gear to do it then.
Cheers for the advice
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19 January 2012, 10:22
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Originally Posted by Trailer Guy
i've changed them without a press before.
Big, ball pein hammer, 3/4" socket that's big enough to line up with the outer race / carrier of the bearings, a set of circlip pliers and a big set of forearms.
hey presto
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I can not see this is possible with mine as the bearing are pressed in up to a lip which covers the outer casing of the bearing, so to drive it out you have no option but to drive them out with the inner part of the bearing you can not see the outer!
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19 January 2012, 10:26
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The last photo shows the inner race which I would have to use to drive out the bearing!
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19 January 2012, 14:40
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Thanks for your time Nick we ended up getting them changed at the brokers for £150 but t least it's done. The brakes were shot too so have been removed. We will be re-fitting them at our place over the next few days.
Thanks again
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19 January 2012, 22:12
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Hi Nick
I know what you're saying. With your type I just use a smaller socket and bear down on the seal over the bearing balls instead. As they're being replaced, you don't have to worry about damaging them. They transfer the energy to the lip / shelf, between the two sets of ball bearings, that's part of the bearing case. This should move it out.
I've done it quite a few times. It's not my prefered method, I can assure you, but it does work!
PS. Glad you got sorted B & O
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19 January 2012, 22:53
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Thanks. Got home safe so just the brakes pads to replace for it to be braked again. Thanks again for your advice.
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25 April 2014, 16:06
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Resuscitating the thread 'cos I was hoping someone with experience of the SBS R2/1000EL could tell me the bearing numbers it uses as a friend wants me along to collect a boat and as the trailer has had nothing done to it for a few years I want to at least have the comfort of a set of fresh bearings available if they look scary on arrival. I've learned you can never trust what people say about bearings they won't be towing! I won't be bringing a hydraulic press - there are limits. But a big hammer and a socket set might apparently get the job done if strictly necessary going byTrailerguys helpful suggestions above.
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25 April 2014, 17:33
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Resuscitating the thread 'cos I was hoping someone with experience of the SBS R2/1000EL could tell me the bearing numbers it uses as a friend wants me along to collect a boat and as the trailer has had nothing done to it for a few years I want to at least have the comfort of a set of fresh bearings available if they look scary on arrival. I've learned you can never trust what people say about bearings they won't be towing! I won't be bringing a hydraulic press - there are limits. But a big hammer and a socket set might apparently get the job done if strictly necessary going byTrailerguys helpful suggestions above.
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have a word with Roy at SBS, very helpful and I'm sure he'll be able to sort you out, tel no 08452305672
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25 April 2014, 20:00
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have a word with Roy at SBS, very helpful and I'm sure he'll be able to sort you out, tel no 08452305672
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Thanks Chris - I'd actually rang SBS before posting but he was on the blower so left the details and he hadn't got back to me. It was late Friday to be fair so I think maybe an email.....
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25 April 2014, 23:37
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Thanks Chris - I'd actually rang SBS before posting but he was on the blower so left the details and he hadn't got back to me. It was late Friday to be fair so I think maybe an email.....
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from experience, you will wait for ever for a return call or email, and I was buying a trailer not looking for details on bearings, they are good with advice etc but you will have to chase them!
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