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29 July 2005, 22:30
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Country: USA
Town: Des Moines, Iowa
Boat name: Perfecto
Make: Merc
Length: 4m +
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SIB trailer problem.
Hi everyone. Ive had my Quicksilver 4.30 HD SIB for the past couple months and have loved every moment exept for launching. Its a nitemare
My problem is the following:
1. I back down the ramp to find my boat trailer bunks not even in the water and with water coming in my exhaust.
2. I find myself unhooking the trailer and pushing it into the water then manualy lifting the trailer and boat back onto the trailer hitch because the trailer wont go far enough into the water without exhaust filling with water!(my back is hurting)
3. Being a SIB the majority of weight is on the back (due to the outboard and inflatable floor) and the back of the boat is hanging off the trailer. This doesnt seem balanced.
My trailer is obviously not good for my boat. Do I need a longer trailer? Would this solve the problem? I was looking at roller trailers but they do not recommend them with SIBs. Please reply as I want to enjoy my SIB!!!
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30 July 2005, 07:09
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Country: UK - England
Town: Cumbria
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The way I was taught to launch a small boat, and this may well have changed as I'm feeling as old as Victor Meldrew so treat it as anecdotal rather than advice, was like this:
1. Reverse to the top of the slipway.
2. Secure a line between the trailer and the tow hitch.
3. Use the tow hitch as a belay post (if you know what I mean) and gently, slowly, let out the line so that the trailer gently moves down the slipway.
4. Once the boat is launched gently drive the towing vehicle forward with the line secure until the trailer is clear of the water/green slippy stuff and then brake the trailer.
5. Reverse back to the trailer and hitch on as normal.
6. Recovery is similar.
(the above assumes that you have a jockey wheel)
It may be more difficult to do this single handedly: and even with a crew of three I used to have real problems controlling the rate of descent at times!
Like I said, its the method I was taught years ago when Queen Victoria (God Bless 'er!) was a nipper and slipways were empty,deserted places, so the practice may not be recommended in todays crowded world.
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30 July 2005, 08:05
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Country: USA
Town: Des Moines, Iowa
Boat name: Perfecto
Make: Merc
Length: 4m +
Join Date: Jul 2004
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I dont have a jockey wheel. Im just looking for suggestions for a new trailer because this one is rediculous. Thanks for the replies
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30 July 2005, 10:33
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Country: UK - England
Town: New Forest
Boat name: Charlie Brown
Make: Scorpion
Length: 8m +
Engine: 275 Verado
MMSI: 235069179
Join Date: Oct 2004
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I agree with Stan but if you dint have a jocky wheel then thats no use!
I have a roller trailer for my 5 meter rib and it is very easy to launch. i tow with a Golf and choose the steepest slip way i can find.
A friend has his 4.8 on a bunked trailer and its a nightmate compared to launching mine. (he has to do the same as you)!
Couldnt give you details on what length of trailer or if you can use a rollered trailer on a sib but would be worth looking at!
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30 July 2005, 13:35
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Country: UK - England
Town: Bucks
Boat name: Blue & Ding Dong
Make: Ribeye,SR4 & Bombard
Length: 6m +
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You could fit a Jockey wheel
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30 July 2005, 20:18
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Country: USA
Town: Des Moines, Iowa
Boat name: Perfecto
Make: Merc
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wat exactly is a jockey wheel? also ive heard rollers arent good for sibs because they can damage the bottom. not sure if this is true.
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30 July 2005, 21:49
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Country: UK - England
Town: Nutbourne
Boat name: Renegade
Make: Porter
Length: 6m +
Engine: 140 Tohatsu
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The jockey wheel is the thing that stops the tow hitch dropping on your toe when you un-hitch. A small wheel on an adjustable height prop near front of the trailer. It turns your trailer into a tricycle.
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30 July 2005, 21:49
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Country: UK - England
Town: Bucks
Boat name: Blue & Ding Dong
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30 July 2005, 21:51
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Country: UK - England
Town: Bucks
Boat name: Blue & Ding Dong
Make: Ribeye,SR4 & Bombard
Length: 6m +
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30 July 2005, 22:14
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Country: USA
Town: Des Moines, Iowa
Boat name: Perfecto
Make: Merc
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aw yes. i see. but still my boat ramps are pretty steep so i think dragging that trailer to my car would still be brutal. hehe
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31 July 2005, 00:06
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Country: UK - England
Town: Chelmsford/Anglesey
Make: Avon SR/RibLite 3.1m
Length: 4m +
Engine: Honda 30hp/Yam 8hp
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Sirius - just a thought, but what if you fitted a set of those removable launching wheels to the SIB's transom while it's still on the trailer, then push it off the trailer and walk the boat into the water using the wheels. You could then demount the wheels and chuck them back in the car. You could then refit the launching wheels to assist recovery of the SIB. Of course this all rather depends on how easy it is to slide the SIB off the bunks in the first place, but I can't immediately think of any other solution other than dispensing completely with the trailer and going through the hassle of inflating and deflating the boat each time you use it
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31 July 2005, 00:07
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Country: USA
Town: Des Moines, Iowa
Boat name: Perfecto
Make: Merc
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Ya i have decided to sell it. This is rediculous. Thanks for the replise tho guys. Ive had problems since day 1, including the original boat having a huge hole in it.
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31 July 2005, 05:49
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Country: USA
Town: Chula Vista, CA
Boat name: T.A.P.O.A.F.O.M.
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: Suzuki DF140
Join Date: Feb 2004
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Trailer tongue lengthened
How about having the trailer tongue lengthened? I had that done to my roller trailer at Polaris in Langley, Canada. Seems that would put the trailer further back and move the boat forward on the trailer so the end doesn't hang off.
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31 July 2005, 09:32
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Town: Fareham
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Have you got any pictures of the Sib/trailer, perhaps you could install a launching trolly in between the bunks and SIB
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01 August 2005, 21:08
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Town: Oakland CA
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http://www.xtend-a-hitchnorthwest.com/
This would do it for you, I think.
The problem with most inflatable trailers is that the tubes sit above the fenders. This means that the boat is really high on the trailer.
Depending on width, you could, I suppose, re-axle the trailer to get enough width to fit the SIB between the fenders. Probably be a little pricey, though.
The Extend-a-hitch would work (depending on the type of trailer you have), but if I were you, I'd print out enough of the pictures that someone on your side of the pond would be able to fabricate one for you, rather than order one from California.
jky
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02 August 2005, 06:59
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Country: USA
Town: Des Moines, Iowa
Boat name: Perfecto
Make: Merc
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thanks. but to expensive. appreciate the support'
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02 August 2005, 14:52
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Country: Canada
Town: British Columbia
Make: Gemini
Length: 4m +
Engine: 40hp 2 str
Join Date: Oct 2003
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Why not just pack the boat up and throw it and the motor in the back of your vehicle or a small utility trailer? One of the main benefits of a foldable inflatable boat is to be able to get to remote lakes that would not be accessible if towing a regular boat trailer. Using a foot pump, I can have my boat ready to go with the outboard mounted in less tha 15 minutes when by myself, and in less than 10 when with someone else. Doing it this way I can also launch from just about anywhere. If I get my cheap self to buy one of those $30 12volt rechargeable inflatable mattress compressors, it would be even quicker.
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