Small SUV tow car company car

[GeoffW]

Originally Posted by HDAV

Thanks wasn't really looking at qashqai (very common) CX-3 too small, Kuga looked nice nopever been a ford fan tho, is kuga and cx-5 same platform?

Octavia 4x4 is good on co2 (120g) so might take a closer look at that, eceonomy doesn't effect me co2 does so thirpsty with low co2 is ideal hybrid is no benefit cost wise, shame ch-r turbo is so high on co2 in AWD....

I moved from Disco 4 to a Skoda Suberb estate 4x4 2l 190 bhp. The main reason being it was 18 k less than Landrover wanted for a soon to be replaced model. The Skoda can launch and recover a big 8 m rib , but will never be as capable as the full fat Disco on towing. But the skoda is more comfortable , has better equipment , faster, more roomy and much cheaper to run than Land rover No brainer really at 18 k less Dest car I have ever owned including Volvos Audis and Mercs and Saabs and Land Rover

[Xk59D]

Was looking at the skoda myself, what weight are you pulling with it? I assume it is an auto?

If it is lugging about your 7.8 ribcraft then it will handle my 6.8

[Starovich]

Originally Posted by Xk59D

Was looking at the skoda myself, what weight are you pulling with it? I assume it is an auto?

If it is lugging about your 7.8 ribcraft then it will handle my 6.8

They have a tow capacity of 1500kg - 2200 kg depending on variant.

[9D280]

Inebriated high level observation but these days engine size means nothing.

There's 1 litres pulling the sort of HP you would traditionally associate with a much bigger engine.

The rest is down to personal taste and situational finances. .

[Orwell boy]

I have a hunch that a lot of towing limits are set by emmissions ,if a vehicle is pushing the limits of a particular tax band as normal ,when you hang a trailer on it pushes it into the next band ,therefore as 90% of vehicles will never pull a trailer then its better to keep the tax low for the majority , I discovered this on a new 2.5 ton jeep wrangler which amazingly had an unbraked limit of 500kg

[Poly]

Originally Posted by Orwell boy

I have a hunch that a lot of towing limits are set by emmissions ,if a vehicle is pushing the limits of a particular tax band as normal ,when you hang a trailer on it pushes it into the next band ,therefore as 90% of vehicles will never pull a trailer then its better to keep the tax low for the majority , I discovered this on a new 2.5 ton jeep wrangler which amazingly had an unbraked limit of 500kg

Are official emissions (for tax purposes) measured when towing? I doubt it as the aero effects of the trailer would be highly variable etc. And as you say so many will never tow and so they'd probably sell more cars offering a "no tow" version with a better tax class.

Now it might be related to warranty issues? Why make life harder for the car you are warranting if you don't need to? Or in the case of US designed cars it could be they just don't get the way Brits/Europeans use unbraked trailers.

[HDAV]

Originally Posted by 9D280

Inebriated high level observation but these days engine size means nothing.

There's 1 litres pulling the sort of HP you would traditionally associate with a much bigger engine.

The rest is down to personal taste and situational finances. .

HP yes, but towing and most driving is about torque! And low end torque!

Turbo 1litre aren't very torquey but I think the towing limits are a compromise but there are some oddities out there perhaps more related to breaking systems? Volvo are much better on u brakes towing loads than many, V40 is 720kg iirc other similar size cars are under 500kg....

A Prius is 725kg braked or unbraked!

[Orwell boy]

Interesting if you want a big jeep wrangler with better towing figures jeep/fiat told me there was an axle plus model which had a different ratio back axle but the downside was it jumped into the higher road tax band ,,, just my findings when I nearly fell into the trap of thinking "big motor will tow a house"

[HDAV]

I wonder if there is a test they have to pass i.e. Fully laden up a 1:4 and hold on handbrake then hill start? Same down hill?

Honda hrv (new one) 1.5 dci is 500kg unbraked, CH-R 1.2 is 720kg!

[Xk59D]

Originally Posted by HDAV

I wonder if there is a test they have to pass i.e. Fully laden up a 1:4 and hold on handbrake then hill start? Same down hill?

Honda hrv (new one) 1.5 dci is 500kg unbraked, CH-R 1.2 is 720kg!

If you are talking about how they rate cars I found the info a while back, don't have it handy but basically they pull the rated weight 6x in 5 min on a 12% gradient or something along those lines from a standing start on the hill. When it fails this test that is the towing limit I read, would be happy if someone finds it again and can verify it.

[jonp]

We have pretty good car review sites over this side of the pond, maybe this site might help https://www.carsguide.com.au/suv

[GeoffW]

Originally Posted by Starovich

They have a tow capacity of 1500kg - 2200 kg depending on variant.

It has launched and recovered. But not towed on road. Yes it is auto dsg box 2 litre 4 wheel drive. And the tow bar swivels away out of sight and automatically drops down and locks electronically Tidy. Info centre illustration of trailer and diagnostic trailer lights as well. Getting clever cars these days. Basically a mix of Passat and Audi running gear but I would suggest better package and price than either

[Poly]

Originally Posted by GeoffW

And the tow bar swivels away out of sight and automatically drops down and locks electronically Tidy.

Sounds like a feature you wouldn't want to own once the warranty is expired...

[HDAV]

Originally Posted by Xk59D

If you are talking about how they rate cars I found the info a while back, don't have it handy but basically they pull the rated weight 6x in 5 min on a 12% gradient or something along those lines from a standing start on the hill. When it fails this test that is the towing limit I read, would be happy if someone finds it again and can verify it.

That's what I was after thanks I'll see if I can find a link

[69cmw]

Originally Posted by Poly

Sounds like a feature you wouldn't want to own once the warranty is expired...

You could say that for a lot of fancy features on cars these days ....

[GeoffW]

Originally Posted by Poly

Sounds like a feature you wouldn't want to own once the warranty is expired...

For sure , but won't be my problem then as will be handed back to leasing coy ! Prob true about most cars these days of any make , the more electric toys the more to go wrong out of warranty.

[Pikey Dave]

Originally Posted by GeoffW

For sure , but won't be my problem then as will be handed back to leasing coy ! Prob true about most cars these days of any make , the more electric toys the more to go wrong out of warranty.

Went to the launch of the new Disco 5, which has a fancy electric towball. I asked the rep if a conventional fixed towball was an option, nope came the reply, this is the only one you can have, currently. How much is it I enquired, around £2000 replied the rep[emoji15]

[Maximus]

Originally Posted by Pikey Dave

Went to the launch of the new Disco 5, which has a fancy electric towball. I asked the rep if a conventional fixed towball was an option, nope came the reply, this is the only one you can have, currently. How much is it I enquired, around £2000 replied the rep[emoji15]

Sounds a smart move by Landrover....NOT!:

[Xk59D]

It won't be an option from range rover but the aftermarket will no doubt find a way.

With that said, if you can afford a new disco then another 2k ain't going to make or break it. Landrover sure have a sense of humour with pricing.

[GeoffW]

Originally Posted by Pikey Dave

Went to the launch of the new Disco 5, which has a fancy electric towball. I asked the rep if a conventional fixed towball was an option, nope came the reply, this is the only one you can have, currently. How much is it I enquired, around £2000 replied the rep[emoji15]

I do feel Land Rover are increasingly pricing out there loyal longstanding customers . They only fit the euro socket to my last D4 tow bar despite me asking not too. They then charged me £10 more for a conversion adaptor . I refused to pay it. They did the same to a guy in Oban who has bought several Land and Range Rovers from new . They did not back down. Order for Range Rover cancelled BMW X5 bought . Arrogance on Land Rovers part ?