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01 June 2014, 08:12
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Member
Country: Ireland
Town: Galway
Boat name: Top Banana
Make: Scorpion 9m
Length: 9m +
Engine: Yamaha 421STI
MMSI: Yeah right!
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 1,164
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Forget Range Rovers, Mercs, et al and concentrate on a COMMERCIAL vehicle such as a Defender or Discovery.
As it's for business use, you'll be able to claim ALL the VAT back on the purchase price and because it's a commercial vehicle you won't have to worry about company car tax either.
Add in the tachometer issue highlighted above and, to my mind, you'll be joining the Land Rover owner's club very soon.
You know it makes sense.
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01 June 2014, 09:23
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: north ayrshire
Boat name: charlie girl
Make: S/R5.4/regal3760
Length: 10m +
Engine: Suzukidf70 2x6lp 315
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 4,017
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Originally Posted by Rokraider
Toyota Land Cruiser Amazon would be my weapon of choice. Large comfortable, surprisingly nippy for its size, reliable and will tow anything happily. £13k is not going to buy you much worth having of the modern vehicles. A Disco out of warranty is a liability, RRS is even more so.
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+1 Its a no brainer a landcruiser amazon is the best you will get for your job comfy powerfull and ultra reliable
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01 June 2014, 16:20
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Southampton
Boat name: Hissing Sid
Make: Ross Smith Cobra
Length: 6m +
Engine: 200HP Optimax
MMSI: 235038046
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 3,804
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I think the Isuzu double cab can tow more than the other pickups. Not 100% sure though.
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01 June 2014, 17:52
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Member
Country: Ireland
Make: Zodiac Mk I
Length: 3m +
Engine: 15 hp Yam two stroke
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 728
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Nearly all the farmers (who have been towing v-heavy like forever) around here use the Landcruiser commercial's 24-7,365.
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01 June 2014, 18:50
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: teesside
Boat name: magic
Make: humber 5.5
Length: 5m +
Engine: mariner 115
MMSI: 232012453
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 1,557
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iv had a few big 4x4,s and the best by a country mile was a 3.0 v6 tdi vw touareg loads more torque than an ml 320 or range rover tdv6 and they do a v10 tdi that can be re mapped to over 1000nm torque if you need to tow any jumbo jets
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02 June 2014, 11:50
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Burwash, East Sussex
Make: Ribcraft 6.4 Pro
Length: 6m +
Engine: Suzuki DF150
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 243
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Originally Posted by beerbelly
iv had a few big 4x4,s and the best by a country mile was a 3.0 v6 tdi vw touareg loads more torque than an ml 320 or range rover tdv6 and they do a v10 tdi that can be re mapped to over 1000nm torque if you need to tow any jumbo jets
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Are you sure?
VW Toe-rag 3.0 tdi: 225bhp, 369 lb.ft torque at 1700rpm, 22.6 mpg average.
Merc ML320 3.0 tdi: 224bhp, 376 lb.ft torque at 1600rpm, 26 mpg average.
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02 June 2014, 12:13
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RIBnet supporter
Country: UK - England
Town: Rutland
Length: no boat
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 2,500
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Originally Posted by Jizm
I think the Isuzu double cab can tow more than the other pickups. Not 100% sure though.
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The new Ford is rated to 3500 kg to
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02 June 2014, 12:27
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Mighty Penryn
Boat name: Little Joe.
Make: Avon Searider
Length: 4m +
Engine: Honda BF50
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 8,875
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Originally Posted by bedajim
The new Ford is rated to 3500 kg to
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....and it comes in asbo orange. :-)
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02 June 2014, 12:56
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: N. Pembrokeshire
Boat name: Various
Make: RIBs & Hovercraft
Length: 9m +
Engine: Outboards
MMSI: Various
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 1,358
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Really? The salesman at the garage told me it wasn't
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Originally Posted by bedajim
The new Ford is rated to 3500 kg to
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02 June 2014, 12:59
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Lancs
Boat name: Beretta
Make: Ballistic
Length: 6m +
Engine: 175hp e-tec
MMSI: 235035778
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 1,736
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Originally Posted by SW Boat Transport
Avoid the Navara like the Plague. Mine spent more time in the garage than on the road. I have had 3 x Discoveries now for commercial towing. Nearly 300,000 miles in total between them and not one breakdown. They are also compatible with a digital tachograph, which you will of course need to fit if you are towing with it commercially. DVSA (formerly VOSA) have been really cracking down on 4x4s towing commercially recently.
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This has summed up everything I was going to say...
I had a Navara and it was rubbish, had loads of issues.
Now on a Disco 3 and its been brilliant!
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02 June 2014, 13:34
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Glasgow
Boat name: Thunder
Make: Halmatic Arctic 22
Length: 6m +
Engine: 2 x 150 Etec
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 523
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I had a 2009 Shogun, it certainly towed well however it drank fuel (19 mpg average). It had loads of kit on it, sat nav, bluetooth phone etc, it was however a big noisy brute as a day to day car.
Got rid of it recently, it had only done 70,000 miles but the doors were rusting and the gearbox was getting decidedly iffy.
I wouldn't get another, particularly after the fiasco of trying to get Mitsubishi to sort out the rusting doors.
Would get another Landcruiser anytime.
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02 June 2014, 13:55
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RIBnet supporter
Country: UK - England
Town: Rutland
Length: no boat
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 2,500
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Originally Posted by Razorbill RIBs
Really? The salesman at the garage told me it wasn't
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Ok 3495kg
Burnt Orange
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02 June 2014, 13:56
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Ashton-under-Lyne Lancs
Boat name: IMOGEN
Make: Air-Craft 5.4
Length: 5m +
Engine: Suzuki df70a
MMSI: 235087492
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 7,078
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Originally Posted by GordyP
Would get another Landcruiser anytime.
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Them Land Cruisers are the dogs danglies if I had the dosh I wouldn't hesitate to get one
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02 June 2014, 14:28
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Mighty Penryn
Boat name: Little Joe.
Make: Avon Searider
Length: 4m +
Engine: Honda BF50
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 8,875
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The latest Disco 4 8sp auto will return 32mpg. Earlier Disco 4 28mpg. Landtanks are old truck technology. 19/20mpg. :-/
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02 June 2014, 16:13
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Surrey
Boat name: Fugly & Rokraider 1
Make: Pac 22 & Porter 6.5
Length: 6m +
Engine: Ford 250 & jet,DT140
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 681
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Originally Posted by Mollers
The latest Disco 4 8sp auto will return 32mpg. Earlier Disco 4 28mpg. Landtanks are old truck technology. 19/20mpg. :-/
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Land Tanks are old straightforward technology that is easy to maintain, seldom need repairing. They are expensive secondhand, because people hang on to them , because they are so good, meaning difficult to find secondhand.
As for Disco 4s, I don't see how it is a step forward to design a vehicle that needs its body taken off to gain access for basic maintenance items such as diesel injectors or suspension bushes. It is great until it goes wrong then hits the wallet big time. As I said before a liability once out of warranty.
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02 June 2014, 17:23
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: St Helens
Boat name: Wine Down
Make: Maxum
Length: 8m +
Engine: Inboard
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 934
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rokraider
Land Tanks are old straightforward technology that is easy to maintain, seldom need repairing. They are expensive secondhand, because people hang on to them , because they are so good, meaning difficult to find secondhand.
As for Disco 4s, I don't see how it is a step forward to design a vehicle that needs its body taken off to gain access for basic maintenance items such as diesel injectors or suspension bushes. It is great until it goes wrong then hits the wallet big time. As I said before a liability once out of warranty.
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You are soooo right, why anyone would want improved technology, more comfort and better performance is beyond me
But taking your theory into account, surley the OP actually needs a Series 1 Landy, now that is simple, doesnt even have windows to go wrong
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05 June 2014, 20:46
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#37
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: N. Pembrokeshire
Boat name: Various
Make: RIBs & Hovercraft
Length: 9m +
Engine: Outboards
MMSI: Various
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 1,358
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bedajim
Ok 3495kg
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Ha he must have taken me literally .... I explained I wanted 3.5t capacity.... He said it didn't have it.... But no mention of 3495... Funny!
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05 June 2014, 21:18
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#38
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Essex
Boat name: Kestrel
Make: Gemini
Length: 6m +
Engine: Opti 150
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 289
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love my V8 Land cruiser! Just clicked over 135k and still going strong 😀
Luckily it's not my everyday car, but it's mega for chucking all the dive/boat/camping kit in the back and arriving were ever you are going relaxed but a little poorer cause of the 18mpg😧
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07 June 2014, 08:50
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#39
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Salcombe, Devon, UK
Boat name: BananaShark
Make: BananaShark
Length: 10m +
Engine: 2xYanmar 260 diesels
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 4,225
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Here you go - lots of extras but only two seats - Shogun
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Originally Posted by Zippy
When a boat looks that good who needs tubes!!!
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07 June 2014, 10:47
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#40
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Surrey
Boat name: Fugly & Rokraider 1
Make: Pac 22 & Porter 6.5
Length: 6m +
Engine: Ford 250 & jet,DT140
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 681
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Landlockedpirate
But taking your theory into account, surley the OP actually needs a Series 1 Landy, now that is simple, doesnt even have windows to go wrong
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No windows?
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