Towing Question "Have I got this right??"

[Oscarguitar]

Originally Posted by Ian M

Steady on fella. I was not commenting on the products, more the marketing strategies used by the respective companies. Anyway, it is probably a mute point now, as LR seem to be goiing the same route, vis Evoque etc. etc.

I really didn't want this to decend into a my car is more rugged/better than your car, and have held off posting for just that reason as I knew from other threads in this forum that it was likely to happen. They are just different built and sold for different tasks. Mine works for me.

Thanks for all the very helpful input, it looks like I'm OK with my set up provided the trailer capacity is inline with the advice from ROG which I will check.

One question why 2 Land Rovers? Need to have a spare?

[Bigmuz7]

Originally Posted by discomick

Have a look at tow car of the year 2010

Thats sooo 2 years ago

Who pays these people to come up with that stuff ?

Ok I get it .. they tow the van for 2 weeks in the summer for the holidays and dont miss it when its in the garage for the other 50 ?

[kerny]

Originally Posted by Bigmuz7

Do I have to spell it out PARKED in my garage , and not getting REPAIRED in the dealers garage .... you should be proud ... some fine German engineering

Now .. you've made a pigs ear of your quotes as usual look ... Nurse[/QUOTE]

Typical sweaty sock getting the wrong end of the stick, That's why I was laughing because I don't have a L.R. I have a very reliable Nissan Terrano 3ltr d. As for my quoting well it is... getting better I think

[Bigmuz7]

Originally Posted by Oscarguitar

I really didn't want this to decend into a my car is more rugged/better than your car

I do sorry .. thread hyjack

Its not an anti LR thing, its just like people who buy JCB's all the time and never anything else ?, they never seem to realise how much money they piss up against the wall ....some of these 'great British brands' just dont stack up on spec and reliability compared to the opposition

[mick]

Originally Posted by Oscarguitar

I really didn't want this to decend into a my car is more rugged/better than your car, and have held off posting for just that reason as I knew from other threads in this forum that it was likely to happen. They are just different built and sold for different tasks. Mine works for me.

Thanks for all the very helpful input, it looks like I'm OK with my set up provided the trailer capacity is inline with the advice from ROG which I will check.

One question why 2 Land Rovers? Need to have a spare?

No worries it's all a bit of fun we got a bogof deal on his and hers land rovers

[Oscarguitar]

Originally Posted by discomick

No worries it's all a bit of fun we got a bogof deal on his and hers land rovers

Nice!

[Anchorhandler]

Originally Posted by Bigmuz7

I do sorry .. thread hyjack

Its not an anti LR thing, its just like people who buy JCB's all the time and never anything else ?, they never seem to realise how much money they piss up against the wall ....some of these 'great British brands' just dont stack up on spec and reliability compared to the opposition

Couldn't agree more.... Now on my third Kubota, one kx36-2, a kx41-2 and now a 2009 kx36-3....(after originally owning a jcb 801.4) played with a friends Tacheuchi for a bit also, not a bad little machine. ( wow, what a great thread hijack ;-) )
Don't get me wrong, i will defend anything British when it deserves defending as we still have a lot to be proud of but i wont defend something just because its popular to do so and certainly not if i haven't weighed up the alternatives.

Simon

[Mollers]

JCB minis are pretty poor when compared to the Jap gear. Wheel diggers are a different story.
The 'others' are not better enough. Other brands of wheel digger may be better in certain areas than a JCB, more powerful backhoe, better on the front bucket etc, etc, but when you factor in JCB service, finance, residuals etc, most compainies running multiple wheel diggers stick with Benford products.
Owner operators might go for the odd Cat of MF.

[Anchorhandler]

Originally Posted by Mollers

JCB minis are pretty poor when compared to the Jap gear. Wheel diggers are a different story.
The 'others' are not better enough. Other brands of wheel digger may be better in certain areas than a JCB, more powerful backhoe, better on the front bucket etc, etc, but when you factor in JCB service, finance, residuals etc, most compainies running multiple wheel diggers stick with Benford products.
Owner operators might go for the odd Cat of MF.

Best post i've read on hear in ages there Mr Mollers :-)

If we could somehow get this thread onto classic tractors, it would be my ultimate fantasy thread drift! :-)

Simon

[Bigmuz7]

Originally Posted by Anchorhandler

Don't get me wrong, i will defend anything British when it deserves defending

Absolutely !

I just used JCB as an example .. but now that you mention it

Originally Posted by Mollers

Wheel diggers are a different story.

I neighbour of mine was hacking his exhaust off an 18 month old 3CX the other day, when I asked him why he was doing that to such a new machine he said 'well, they all do it dont they ?' I said what ? .. I dunno whats a 3cx these days? 40 grand ? .. and I said to him, you pay all this for a digger ... thats been in development for 50 odd years, gets exported all round the world, and they cant even build them without their exhausts falling off ? ... its unbelievable

Originally Posted by Anchorhandler

If we could somehow get this thread onto classic tractors, it would be my ultimate fantasy thread drift! :-)

Thats easier than you might think

[Trell]

I have an 8.6m RIB with a (calculated) weight of boat and engine of 1140 kgs. My trailer weighs 950 kgs so total weight excluding fuel and gear is say 2100 kgs.
My vehicle is an X5 3.0D auto with a gross weight of 2695 kgs and towing capacity of 2700 kgs.


Hang on a minute guys, I was under the impression that towing with a vehicle under 3500kg the maximum length of trailer was 7m excluding drawbar ? am I wrong ? Also I would be interested to find out what sort of 8.6 m Rib and engine comes in at that weight ?

[mick]

Originally Posted by Trell

I have an 8.6m RIB with a (calculated) weight of boat and engine of 1140 kgs. My trailer weighs 950 kgs so total weight excluding fuel and gear is say 2100 kgs.
My vehicle is an X5 3.0D auto with a gross weight of 2695 kgs and towing capacity of 2700 kgs.

Hang on a minute guys, I was under the impression that towing with a vehicle under 3500kg the maximum length of trailer was 7m excluding drawbar ? am I wrong ? Also I would be interested to find out what sort of 8.6 m Rib and engine comes in at that weight ?

I thought it was a bit on the light side my 6.5 m Redbay comes in about 2 ton

[Bigmuz7]

The trailer does have a maximum length from the end of the chassis to the samson/winch post. My 8.5 hung over the winch post by about 800mm, an then the back dolley went beyond the end of the chassis by about the same , and then the stern overhung that by a meter, so the trailer isnt the issue for that size of hull, but I agree the weight seems light

[Oscarguitar]

You ate right about the weight. I checked with Cobra today and they say 1.7 - 1.8 but trailer is only 600kg so total is 2.3 so still below max but getting a bit porky.

[Dirk Diggler]

And when you get it really wrong.... Driver in court over M62 towing drama - Local West Yorkshire News - News - Huddersfield Examiner

[Nos4r2]

Originally Posted by Dirk Diggler

And when you get it really wrong.... Driver in court over M62 towing drama - Local West Yorkshire News - News - Huddersfield Examiner

A 40' mobile home with no brakes. Genius.

[Poly]

Originally Posted by Trell

Hang on a minute guys, I was under the impression that towing with a vehicle under 3500kg the maximum length of trailer was 7m excluding drawbar ? am I wrong ?

that rule doesn't apply for an "indivisible" load, which clearly a boat is.

[m chappelow]

Originally Posted by Polwart

that rule doesn't apply for an "indivisible" load, which clearly a boat is.

Anything over 2.9metres wide is classed as an indivisible or abnormal load and think you need 2 days police notice before movement,
The guy in the m62 incident will have been towing with solid axles wheels-tyres not for road use and had the book thrown at him owing to the great heck train crash a number of years ago on the m62 caused by a landrover towing and crashing onto the railway line killing 9 peeps

[Nos4r2]

Originally Posted by m chappelow

Anything over 2.9metres wide is classed as an indivisible or abnormal load and thing you need 2 days police notice before movement

Over 2.9m is an abnormal (which also means it's indivisible as well) load.

A slight difference to what you said, but it makes a difference.

[Trell]

There has to be some sort of length limit though ?