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15 January 2022, 14:49
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Country: UK - England
Town: Lancaster
Boat name: Sisu
Make: Brig
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Tracked trailer mover.
Anyone tried one of these?
https://funfitadventure.co.uk/shop/p...trolley-rt1500
Very expensive but work on inclines and gravel which I have both to deal with when storing my boat.
I hear mixed reviews about the powered single jockey wheels and it would seem they won’t work for what I need. It’s only a 5m Brig with a 50 on the back but needs two or three to store it or get it hitched onto the car.
I’d of course like to use the cheaper option but would be keen to hear if anyone has used the tracked version too.
Ps Re surfacing isn’t really an option for me and I can’t run paving stones as a track as need multiple shuffles to get the boat tucked away.
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15 January 2022, 18:14
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Probably the best one I've seen but I can't see it working very well on gravel. Wouldn't want to risk that much money.
I was thinking about it and maybe there's a way to adapt some caravan motor movers so they can be quickly attached. Direct drive would work best. Available secondhand but not too much money even buying new.
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15 January 2022, 20:54
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One of their selling points is that it works on gravel…
I’ve considered direct drive motor movers but I really can’t see any way to make them quick release and they’d probably last 2 mins after being dunked in seawater.
I just have my doubts about the jockey wheel mover working. Some YouTube videos suggest it will work.
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16 January 2022, 12:15
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Town: Barnstaple
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A heavy duty ride on mower would be a better option
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/203792471...cAAOSwc7Nh4wIk
Could cut your grass with it too
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16 January 2022, 12:23
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With the little robot thing, I think the trick would be to get a massive amount of weight on it.
Most little boat trailers have virtually no weight on the towbar (hence why they tow so badly), if you could somehow get 100kg on the towbar I think the robot would probably work quite well.
It’s telling even the smallest model is rated for 300kg. I bet they have a huge pile of weights stacked at the front of the caravans in their demo videos…
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16 January 2022, 12:47
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Tracked trailer mover.
It’s easy enough to move the axle on a boat trailer to change the balance over the tow coupling. My trailer is actually too nose heavy at the moment really.
I already have a ride on mower. There isn’t room to use it to manoeuvre the trailer unfortunately. But I like your thinking [emoji1303].
I’ll probably take a chance on the single jockey wheel. Much cheaper initially and I can probably sell it on if it doesn’t work.
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17 January 2022, 11:28
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Hi Gaz, I've never had a jockey wheel mover but Ive seen people using them. Appear to work well on flat, compact ground, but struggle or just don't work on wet grass, mud, loose gravel or the slightest incline. I've had to move a few caravans with the truck that people couldn't move with their mover.
I read the blurb for the tracked robot mover, are you sure it would work for you - "loose pea style gravel that is not compact would result in limited traction. On a soft surface, such as sand, gravel, wet ground and wet grass, it may be necessary to give the Robot Trolley a little help by pushing with your own weight, especially to begin with and when maneuvering up an incline."
Think I'd want a demo if I was spending that kind of money.
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17 January 2022, 12:23
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I was consideringone of these to help manoeuvre our boat around a tight corner, but if you watch videos on youtube they seem to struggle on anything less than flat, well surfaced ground so I've given it a miss as the corner is grass.
Currently looking at a Mr Shifta 3 (discontinued but available second hand) or a Multi Mover M18 which should give more options for traction.
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17 January 2022, 14:47
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Originally Posted by Gazzago
I hear mixed reviews about the powered single jockey wheels and it would seem they won’t work for what I need. It’s only a 5m Brig with a 50 on the back but needs two or three to store it or get it hitched onto the car.
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Is everything set up sensibly on the trailer? e.g. Even slightly flat tyres makes it really difficult. The boat yard where I keep mine has some huge eyes set into the floor and will move 15 tonne boats with a block and tackle. If I had a problem at home I'd be tempted to do that and/or look at adding a removable front tow bar for manoeuvrability. However the wee robot has potential - if you video where it needs to go and what it would be moving - will they offer a money back guarantee?
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Originally Posted by jakew009
With the little robot thing, I think the trick would be to get a massive amount of weight on it...
...It’s telling even the smallest model is rated for 300kg. I bet they have a huge pile of weights stacked at the front of the caravans in their demo videos…
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If you look at the demo video its not actually mounted to the jockey wheel/tow ball but rather is on a special bracket much further back where it will have more load.
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17 January 2022, 17:32
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Originally Posted by Gazzago
It’s easy enough to move the axle on a boat trailer to change the balance over the tow coupling. My trailer is actually too nose heavy at the moment really.
I already have a ride on mower. There isn’t room to use it to manoeuvre the trailer unfortunately. But I like your thinking [emoji1303].
I’ll probably take a chance on the single jockey wheel. Much cheaper initially and I can probably sell it on if it doesn’t work.
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If you have a ride on mower a front mounted tow bar would transform the maneuverability of it & the trailer & might get you where you want to be. Easy enough to make up a bracket & give it a try before spending big on something else that may not work
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17 January 2022, 19:06
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Quote:
Originally Posted by beamishken
If you have a ride on mower a front mounted tow bar would transform the maneuverability of it & the trailer & might get you where you want to be. Easy enough to make up a bracket & give it a try before spending big on something else that may not work
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A quad bike would be nice if the lawn isn't very big.
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18 January 2022, 11:58
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Would a towbar mounted, remote controlled winch, used in conjunction with a couple of ground anchors work? You'd also need a simple fabricated bracket attached to a spare towball, with a rope guide eyelet.
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18 January 2022, 12:40
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Country: UK - England
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Thanks for all the replies and ideas.
The parking area isn’t loose gravel as such. More compacted. It may be possible to go the winch route but unlikely due to the forwards and backwards needed to get it into place.
It’s interesting that no one has actually got a tracked mover on here. But they do cost a fortune I suppose!
Other movers are an option I’ll look at.
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18 January 2022, 16:02
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This one is workiing on shingle but you would have to make it yourself!
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18 January 2022, 17:29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by scrambler
This one is workiing on shingle but you would have to make it yourself!
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DIY Sealegs
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18 January 2022, 17:59
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I'm still convinced this is the answer
Just don't like the layouts of any of the sealegs ribs
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18 January 2022, 18:59
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Ha ha well there’s two solutions… a little out of my price bracket though [emoji1].
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20 January 2022, 12:39
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I had a pukka 4 wheel trailer mover (forget the brand now) with the driving gears directly onto the trailer tyres.
My rig weight is somewhere up towards the legal towing limit (just under 3 tonnes maybe - I dunno). Even the trailer mover (rated @ 3.5 tonnes) couldn't turn it - it could really only do backwards & forwards, struggled with corners so much so that I used it once, took it off & sold it. Now just use front hitch on the LR.
So I think any of the jockey wheel or similar jobs - limit yourself a lightweight 2 wheeled rig only (which I see your righ might well be). Even then, traction will be prob an issue.
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20 January 2022, 17:32
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Came across this photo by chance. Anyone recognise where taken?
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20 January 2022, 17:41
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What kind of vehicle do you use to tow? In a past life I installed static caravans and had a 4x4 with front mounted removable tow ball(I actually had 3 Left right and Center). Pushing(or pulling) from the front is vastly superior for manoeuvre ability. Occasionally having to unhitch and reposition vehicle. If it’s a possible option it’s a good one.
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